(Extremely Gimped Iconic Summon) that is EGIS

[Razard]

I found this on another forum, sums it up pretty well.

"FFXI's Avatar system was also crummy as hell when it came to representing the power you possessed.

What would you rather have, something that looks akin to the actual Summon but punches enemies for 2 damage, or something that has the looks to match it's usefulness?

I realize this is final FANTASY, but making the Summoner's summons full on Primal size seems a bit unrealistic. You harness a mere portion of the Primal's powers, and as such, it looks just how it should.

In FFXI your Avatars tickled the enemies when they weren't using their BP abilities. They were nearly full size, but the amount of actual control over their power wasn't nearly proportionate to the appearance they had."

Oh and by the way:

[Cadwgan]

Wasn't this dead and buried in the beta forums?


1. You're summoning the essence of the primal to help you fight, not a giant ass god of destruction to fight for you.
2. I don't know about you, but there's way too much shit on the floor to dodge in most fights to have a primal covering most of it up (plus their huge hitboxes soaking every hit aimed within 50 miles of them).
3. We don't know jack about the full primal summoning, for all we know the FC needs to pay 1,000,000 crystals then spam /pray to unlock an alliance LB4 bar, also last I checked the beastmen tribes didn't have arcanists yet they summon the primals.
4. SCH and SMN too alike? It's almost like you've not played either job for any length of time.

I agee, someone said it awhile ago. When lore starts to get in the way of gameplay.. it needs to take backseat, this isn't a book.

You seem to forget what game you're playing, to paraquote Yoshida "If there isn't a lore reason behind it, it's not happening".

[Dwill]

Here we go again!

[HulveinBlitz]

Here we go again!

[Exstal]

I wonder if it'll make it to page 94 like the Bard / Summoner rework thread did. I love really long threads as well as really long posts.

Please make it happen.

[Dwill]

Snip

I was thinking more about the line of:

[Zoeila]

i get the impression that summoner was rushed/tacked on. sch seems like a more logical progression from arcanist than smn does. even the smn job quests story doesnt seem as well thought out as the sch one.

[Alukah]

I wonder if it'll make it to page 94 like the Bard / Summoner rework thread did. I love really long threads as well as really long posts.

Please make it happen.

97, get your facts straight.

[Exstal]

97, get your facts straight.

I only made it to page 94 before I didn't see it on the first 5 pages of general discussion, figured it got deleted. Thanks for the link!

[Wyrmnus]

This has me dying from laughter