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  1. #81
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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Probs next endgame raid stuff will be based around the ppl in black hoodies ( forgot their names ) and zodiark.
    Cuz it wouldn't make any sense to make a completely new super ultimate end of the world iconic bad guy right after they finished the coil story line.
    Probs they pop up at the end and be all like mysterious and stuff and say things like
    Zodiark this, zodiark that, things are almost ready blah.
    Then we get to enjoy coil all over again except it would be called the binding coil of zodiark. Lol
    Same routine, different appearance and name.
    Is your body and soul ready?
    (3)

  2. #82
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    More intrigued on how they will close the story of the calamity than anything else. Will be starting on coil 3 from day one.
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  3. #83
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    RaineMagus's Avatar
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    Eliya Maxwell
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Well that's how the majority of MMO players think. If there is not better gear or they are not getting stuff out of it they will not want to do it. One of main reasons why so few FCs do savage coil because the rewards are the same. It only takes a couple people in your FC coil group to make it so you can't even try doing savage. Couple people say they won't do it because the rewards are the same then the whole group can't do it. Now say if savage did offer better gear you see a lot different attitude toward it. Many groups would be doing it.
    I'm not so sure here...


    If this is the problem (lack of incentive), wouldn't discontinuation of future tomestone gear be a better solution "ultimately" to providing motivation, or making the upgrade of future tomestone gear require savage? Aka, providing no alternative to acquiring high-tier gear minus various forms of raiding.


    --I mean, it was definitely a reason for the change to soldiery gear (vs mythology being the same iLvl). Yet, despite that it was done ... I know a TON of players that still have NEVER attempted SCOB, or have only tried it a few times and have given up.

    Would these people do SCOB, if SCOB was the 'easiest' means to get their iLvl 110 gear (in the game) and if The Hunt never existed? Remember that they didn't effectively try SCOB that much before an alternate route to 110 gear was in-game.

    Would more hardcore players (with static raid teams) attempt Savage Coil to gear up faster, if they had to either "wait on RNG", or clear savage?



    Somehow I think that people just have limits to the difficulty that they consider enjoyable, and that reward isn't directly the issue. (key word, 'directly')
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    Last edited by RaineMagus; 10-17-2014 at 07:26 AM. Reason: length

  4. 10-17-2014 07:27 AM

  5. #84
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Hmmm, I wonder if they make it so that our parties lives are shared, meaning if somebody dies EVERYONE will immediately die.
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  6. #85
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    RaineMagus's Avatar
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    Eliya Maxwell
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Seibah View Post
    AWWW YEAH

    the next chapter of the binding coil of simon says is finally here

    what unfun mechanics could they possibly add next? I can't think of anything more unfun than spending 6 months wiping due to one person's mistakes. I hope they make the mechanics even more punishing this time. Maybe just have a blighted bouquet like feature that wipes the entire party if someone moves, with an even smaller timer? Or maybe we should have a smaller arena with a much larger aoe cone for stone voice to hit. C'mon SE, let's see if you can make something even less fun than Coil 2. I eagerly await in anticipation with doritos in hand.

    All a matter of opinion... I enjoy every turn of SCOB each week, including T7.



    I don't know about you, yet I'd personally love to face Titanhamutrudafrit.. You know, half Titan, half Bahamut, half Garuda, half Ifrit.... We can have like, landslide + WoL at the same time, then throw in some divebombs between them that have to be baited, and also add platformer elements where the party has to jump from platform to platform as Titanhamutrudafrit ... whatever ... stomps them out of existence (while dodging WoL + landslides). Add some explosions for good measure (this is a finale), while having the boss rapidly warp around the arena.


    Actually sarcasm aside (in my response to your sarcasm), that does sound fun (being serious).
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    Last edited by RaineMagus; 10-17-2014 at 07:42 AM. Reason: length

  7. #86
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    Songi's Avatar
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    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Probs next endgame raid stuff will be based around the ppl in black hoodies ( forgot their names ) and zodiark.
    Cuz it wouldn't make any sense to make a completely new super ultimate end of the world iconic bad guy right after they finished the coil story line.
    Probs they pop up at the end and be all like mysterious and stuff and say things like
    Zodiark this, zodiark that, things are almost ready blah.
    Then we get to enjoy coil all over again except it would be called the binding coil of zodiark. Lol
    Same routine, different appearance and name.
    Is your body and soul ready?
    I'm hoping this doesn't happen. I'd unsub in an instant if it does.
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  8. #87
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    abzoluut's Avatar
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    Abzoluut Abzoluut
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    I hope they will bring two modes: normal and savage/brutal. Can't wait to start the new Coil.

    2.4 is about the last significant patch we'll get before 3.0. Give us loads to do please! I'm even in for turn 1-5 (minus turn 3) "sick mode". Just for funsies and having stuff to do with a group rather than solo mini games or 24 man content for glamour.

    Let's hope they can give us some hyped info at the fanfest.
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  9. #88
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    Lillia's Avatar
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    Lillia Hope
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 88
    So... I looked at the images again and realized there's a lot of wall loving going on in the shot but also something in the containers against the wall inside.

    inside the hole you see a bunch of containers and then...



    We got a close up of it right behind the twins.
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  10. #89
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    Jodou's Avatar
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    Wilde Kat
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jubez187 View Post
    Everyone is complaining about loot and RNG and the REWARDS.
    It's a team effort and you want to be the best you can be, or at least good raiders try. Seeing repeat loot when nobody needs anything and you're not BiS feels like a personal failing. There's also the feeling of having nothing to show for your efforts at the end of the day after weeks of clearing. Our group went 22 weeks of clears without 3 specific weapons ever dropping off T9, mine included. It feels incredibly shitty to see random players with your weapon despite having the server first kill.

    This game suffers from horrible loot progression as it is but when you get the shaft for an entire 6 months of raiding, I don't know about you but that sure as hell doesn't motivate me to keep coming back.
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  11. #90
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    Colino's Avatar
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    Colino Nyea
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    Omega
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seibah View Post
    AWWW YEAH

    the next chapter of the binding coil of simon says is finally here

    what unfun mechanics could they possibly add next? I can't think of anything more unfun than spending 6 months wiping due to one person's mistakes. I hope they make the mechanics even more punishing this time. Maybe just have a blighted bouquet like feature that wipes the entire party if someone moves, with an even smaller timer? Or maybe we should have a smaller arena with a much larger aoe cone for stone voice to hit. C'mon SE, let's see if you can make something even less fun than Coil 2. I eagerly await in anticipation with doritos in hand.
    Or maybe you can find some friends that either know how to play the game or are willing to learn and not quit instantly over simple mistakes.
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  12. 10-17-2014 08:20 AM

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