Please be considerate to newer players!

[File2ish]

For those saying it can't be a new tank because he/she has i90 gear, you'd be surprised. My brother is currently leveling his WAR as his 2nd job (it's in the 30's somewhere right now), he already has a full set of i90 gear for when he hits 50 on WAR. Myth is so incredibly easy to get these days it's not even funny. Also you can buy i90 gear relatively cheap on the market board now too (compared a couple prices with the crafted i70 and i90, it varies widely. The i70 gear can be the same price as i90, if not more expensive. i90 gear can go for less than 100k now for the record. Chump change for some people, even if they're new).

On another note, yesterday I did Tam Tara (HM) with a WAR in about i75ish gear (half his gear was hoplite). Didn't have much issue with hate since the BLM (i90+) and I (BRD i92) weren't going all out with AoEs (though we probably could have, we didn't so it was less stressful on everyone. Just took a few minutes longer). We took it slow and told him to read the torn folios since it was his first time in the dungeon, was a fun run.

[SummonerSenah]

For those saying it can't be a new tank because he/she has i90 gear, you'd be surprised. My brother is currently leveling his WAR as his 2nd job (it's in the 30's somewhere right now), he already has a full set of i90 gear for when he hits 50 on WAR. Myth is so incredibly easy to get these days it's not even funny.

It's even faster if they aren't currently in a part of the relic grind that hogs myth, too. If they skip upgrading the relic or are still on the ATMA part, they aren't spending myth on books or alexandrite maps and it accumulates very quickly.

[Spetsnaz]

I was being a bit of a jerk while levelling my BRD, I was starting pulls with full burst with a lower level tank, after a few pulls he just let me tank the one I pulled. At the end I apologized and said good on him for handling it that way. I main tank and that was something I never considered doing.

[Aussir]

And with attitude like this, it is no wonder that people are not getting their practice, but instead getting leveled by by fates and geared by hunts.

I stopped queuing in the DF as a tank because of idiotic people, especially the "I rush ahead and get my face full" and "look at my DPSSSSSSWAAAAAHHHTANKHALP!!" types. I only tank for a static group now and I doubt I'll ever queue as a tank again. It's simply NOT worth the hassle.

As for healing? Those classes are "Forever 15" on my chars...

[Empressia]

Carebear QQ

not sure what u talkin about, sending a tank into such situations is best for his "development", either as a 50 fate grinder goin to quit tanking or he started feeling he need improvement REAL FAST

[Coatl]

If I were that tank I would have just let them die, laugh, and keep on progressing through the dungeon. DPS have quelling strikes which is mostly used for if you overgear your tank to begin with. The only DPS that has an excuse is MNK on single targets as they have no aggro reducer.

I have no sympathy for dead dps that take aggro from a newbie tank. :I

[Seiryuukishi]

As a DPS, I observe what my fellow party members can do. (And since I'm currently leveling up Bard, even more so.) If I notice that the tank had difficulty with me going pants-on-head crazy with Flares and AOEs, then I hold back. If the tank and healer can handle it, then I'm like "KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONESKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!" Better safe than sorry, after all.

Got a giggle out of the Kilroy. But that's generally what I do. I access the situation first couple of groups of mobs and if unless they say they want speed run or not if their action go one way or the other I act accordingly. I don't go out of my way to be impetuous.

[vp_cmc]

quelling strikes

Does your group kill trash mob packs for more than 2 minutes?

Once I was constantly taking aggro from Titan HM as BRD. When I stopped dpsing after another wipe, guess what happened next? WHM took aggro from tank, used SOS, and took aggro again after this.

[Millen1]

Seen a bunch of new tanks and a few dps to lvl 50 dungeons. Well geared tanks are doing big pulls that the dps can't handle and we wipe when my mp runs out. Or one or more dps is over geared and ripes aggro off the tank and now I am healing up 4 four ppl. More than be nice to new people, respect those in the game that are playing something other than their highly geared main. I am hoping some civility comes back to the game in the upcoming 2.4 patch. On another note, I would hate to do any atma books after the patch for a while. 100 kills and god knows how many ninjas sitting there waiting for that 1 of 3 to spawn and be wiped from the map instantly. Any one remember the beginning of 2.0 when we all had to kill the same thing to move the story forward?

[Reyvenscar]

... I didn't know people still level up using fates. Considering dungeons give more exp points now.
And yeah, ilvl90 gears are too easy to get.
They could have saved myths and get them or greed in coil parties or something. (Haven't seen those in forever)

Even if the PLD isn't new to tanking, no amount of Flash can hold aggro long enough until he lose it.
(I know because sometimes I purposely made my friend lose his. :P Triple flare.)
WAR is better in terms of multiple mobs (overpower and steel cyclone).