Please be considerate to newer players!

[Cynfael]

NyarukoW, the straw man arguments are way out of control. They didn't make sense in the other thread, and they REALLY don't make sense here considering that the gist of this thread is "be considerate of less experienced players by not charging in regardless of their skill level."

There are no wicked elitists here trying to stuff all the allegedly helpless newbies into the Eorzean ghetto, cruelly locking them out of all DF content now and forever.

...if that sounded overblown and ridiculous, that's because your comments are very nearly that hyperbolic.

[NyarukoW]

...if that sounded overblown and ridiculous, that's because your comments are very nearly that hyperbolic.

That is not ridiculous or overblown, because that is what is happening in game. The newer players are being shoved aside time and time again, and it is happening with increasing frequency. What you call hyperbolic is actually very close to reality. This needs to stop, and the community can come together and stop it.

Look! If it is not abuot people being excluded from instances, then it is about people being forced to skip cutscenes, or people quitting out of ST when they get their loot, or skipping the final boss because they are soldiery capped. or whatever other scheme they come up with, etc. etc.. The list never ends. It is almost always the experienced players that figure out how the game the system to their advantage and taking for granted everyone else, especially the newer players. Be considerate of everyone else, and stop behaving badly toward others.

[Cynfael]

Snip.

I actually agree that it's inconsiderate to pressure new players to skip their cutscenes in story content or to ditch ST as soon as you win a roll.

However, while I think that actions like those are typical of the rude MMO player stereotype, they aren't particularly indicative that this game is unusually toxic to newbies.

A lot of your comments seem predicated on the notion that new players are helpless to a large degree and need a lot of hand-holding when this game is actually very newbie-accessible. Most players who have i90+ gear and can't play their classes at even a basic level of competence are that way because they choose not to learn, not because they are somehow disadvantaged.

Yes, be considerate to new players, help them when you can, and don't purposely make their experience unpleasant, but also don't absolve them of the reasonable expectation of being an active participant in their own learning process.

[Exstal]

There are no wicked elitists here trying to stuff all the allegedly helpless newbies into the Eorzean ghetto, cruelly locking them out of all DF content now and forever.

I just arrived.

The peasants shall only look at us from beyond their deteriorating fences. Gaze upon our High Allagan coats with envy for they will never attain such riches.