SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[AarosLunos]

I never solo anything except quests and a friend being with me doesn't magically increase SP/hour rate.

SOOO OBLIVIOUS! Ok so I guess the per party member SP bonus doesn't exist now either. WOW

[MookiesPM75]

You can do 8 from one city-state, then go to another and get 8 more.

Only problem is you only have enough for 8 from each city-state when you can get R30 leves (there's 2 R30 camps with 3 leves each, so 6 camps with 3 leves = 18 leves to do).

It's still a 1.5 day cooldown on picking up new leves though no? All of my completed leve's are grey'd out and it wont let me pick any up. Timer says they'll be ready in 7 hours or so. So I'm not understanding the 16 in 36 hours thing.

[Bled]

You are missing the point altogether. I gave specific numbers in several posts, including the first one. Behest was the main way to rank up pre-patch, it is complete trash now. Your leve numbers are way exaggerated and again stop talking about leves, forget leves, they are only 8 every 36 hours, it's not a sustainable and constant source of SP how many times do I have to say it.

I never solo anything except quests and a friend being with me doesn't magically increase SP/hour rate. I don't think you realize how long it will take to rank up to 50 now. Obviously you have a few R50s already ranked up pre patch. Very easy to be pleased with the patch when you are in that position.

lets use that logic then, when i was solo grinding i was making 200-300SP a kill took about 2 min to get form one kill to another, so that roughly 9000 an hour at best then, then there is the most SP i have received from a old behest at that same level which is about 5000. now back in the day with behest at a 30 min timer that's 10000SP an hour and now with random solo grinding i make 9000SP an hour, see that your right there is a decrease (as minor as it is..). However lets not stop there you will eventually reach surplus with the old SP mechanic and now you have to stop essentially. Whats this now that surplus is gone i can get 9000SP an hour sustained longer!!!!! hot damn!!!!

[MookiesPM75]

Ranks 43-49 5 stars all leves (8 person pt)
Camp Broken Water and Halatali
2 1/2 hr at the camp (normally takes us up to 3 1/2 -4 hours)
R45 Dungeon afterward. I didn't go as the same job as I did for the leves, but others that did said they got 20k+ for 2 runs we did for fun (wasn't trying to complete it)

Thank you.

[SuzakuCMX]

It's still a 1.5 day cooldown on picking up new leves though no? All of my completed leve's are grey'd out and it wont let me pick any up. Timer says they'll be ready in 7 hours or so. So I'm not understanding the 16 in 36 hours thing.

Yep. You can pick up 8 then wait for the next period and pick up 8 more with the trade in.

8 NEW leves, but if you fail the leves the first time, you can pick up 8 more the next day and do 16 leves in one day. Which is how leves ended up giving incredibly broken SP prior to the patch.

[Kensei]

I wonder how many people Kensei needs to tell him that he's dead wrong before he understands that



You know that most of us don't stop at the first or second 50 right?

If any, you have it easy, because you didn't already do most of the story/side quests getting nothing from them.

Nobody has proved me wrong. All they can say is "oh but I got 5k SP that one time in that leve! it's the same!". Meaning they don't understand how much slower ranking up is now. I am well aware that most people rank up multiple classes but with a R50 you can already access all the content in the game. So you have all the time in the world to rank the others little by little and can just use your R50 for NMs, the 45 dungeon etc. It's a much more comfortable position.

[SuzakuCMX]

Nobody has proved me wrong. All they can say is "oh but I got 5k SP that one time in that leve! it's the same!"

The irony, it's astounding.

[Abriael]

Nobody has proved me wrong. All they can say is "oh but I got 5k SP that one time in that leve! it's the same!". Meaning they don't understand how much slower ranking up is now. I am well aware that most people rank up multiple classes but with a R50 you can already access all the content in the game. So you have all the time in the world to rank the others little by little and can just use your R50 for NMs, the 45 dungeon etc. It's a much more comfortable position.

Basically, you can say whatever you want, but others can't? lol

I see a lot of envy and very little reasoniong in you, young padawan.

Besides, most of us got our 50s when SP were much, much harder to get than they are now, before or after the patch.

[Kensei]

lets use that logic then, when i was solo grinding i was making 200-300SP a kill took about 2 min to get form one kill to another, so that roughly 9000 an hour at best then, then there is the most SP i have received from a old behest at that same level which is about 5000. now back in the day with behest at a 30 min timer that's 10000SP an hour and now with random solo grinding i make 9000SP an hour, see that your right there is a decrease (as minor as it is..). However lets not stop there you will eventually reach surplus with the old SP mechanic and now you have to stop essentially. Whats this now that surplus is gone i can get 9000SP an hour sustained longer!!!!! hot damn!!!!

Wow you guys did behests in a terrible optimal situation. My average was 9k often 11k. That means 18-22k SP per hour.

[AarosLunos]

Yep. You can pick up 8 then wait for the next period and pick up 8 more with the trade in.

8 NEW leves, but if you fail the leves the first time, you can pick up 8 more the next day and do 16 leves in one day. Which is how leves ended up giving incredibly broken SP prior to the patch.

I hate leve failing so much. Its a horribly bad mechanic.