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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Nobody has proved me wrong. All they can say is "oh but I got 5k SP that one time in that leve! it's the same!". Meaning they don't understand how much slower ranking up is now. I am well aware that most people rank up multiple classes but with a R50 you can already access all the content in the game. So you have all the time in the world to rank the others little by little and can just use your R50 for NMs, the 45 dungeon etc. It's a much more comfortable position.
    Basically, you can say whatever you want, but others can't? lol

    I see a lot of envy and very little reasoniong in you, young padawan.

    Besides, most of us got our 50s when SP were much, much harder to get than they are now, before or after the patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Basically, you can say whatever you want, but others can't? lol

    I see a lot of envy and very little reasoniong in you, young padawan.

    Besides, most of us got our 50s when SP were much, much harder to get than they are now, before or after the patch.
    Everyone can say whatever they want. When have I said the contrary? Also, I'm not doubting that they did in fact get 5+k for those leves, it's just that everyone who uses that as their one argument doesn't understand that I could care less about leves. They can only be done 8 times every 36 hours. Not a constant source of SP. The main ranking up source was behest and it's worthless now. Everything else was also reduced. Now it will take far longer than pre-patch to rank up. Yoshi said that wouldn't be the case and it was.

    If you fail to comprehend that I don't know how much more simpler I can put it for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Everyone can say whatever they want. When have I said the contrary? Also, I'm not doubting that they did in fact get 5+k for those leves, it's just that everyone who uses that as their one argument doesn't understand that I could care less about leves. They can only be done 8 times every 36 hours. Not a constant source of SP. The main ranking up source was behest and it's worthless now. Everything else was also reduced. Now it will take far longer than pre-patch to rank up. Yoshi said that wouldn't be the case and it was.

    If you fail to comprehend that I don't know how much more simpler I can put it for you.
    Main source of ranking up was leves. You must have been doing it way, way wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Main source of ranking up was leves. You must have been doing it way, way wrong.
    Ok, you officially have no idea what you are talking about. You either never made it past R25 or were playing in an unheard of server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Ok, you officially have no idea what you are talking about. You either never made it past R25 or were playing in an unheard of server.
    If they weren't, levefailing really wouldn't be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Ok, you officially have no idea what you are talking about. You either never made it past R25 or were playing in an unheard of server.
    Main source of ranking up was leves. I got the majority of my ranks with leves and leve linking. Now there are several different ways to gain sp. Behest were overpowered since the start, which is why every major patch has tweaked it. They were never meant to be a sole source of ranking up. Hence why it was tweaked again for people like yourself who didn't do anything but behest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Everyone can say whatever they want. When have I said the contrary? Also, I'm not doubting that they did in fact get 5+k for those leves, it's just that everyone who uses that as their one argument doesn't understand that I could care less about leves. They can only be done 8 times every 36 hours. Not a constant source of SP. The main ranking up source was behest and it's worthless now. Everything else was also reduced. Now it will take far longer than pre-patch to rank up. Yoshi said that wouldn't be the case and it was.

    If you fail to comprehend that I don't know how much more simpler I can put it for you.
    I must have missed the portion of the letter where Yoshi said "don't worry Kensei we are not going to touch your Behests"

    there are alternatives, you can claim that they are more or less efficient, however you can not argue that pre 1.18 had better sustainable SP as compared to post 1.18... i know you will try but you really cant, good bye surplus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    I must have missed the portion of the letter where Yoshi said "don't worry Kensei we are not going to touch your Behests"

    there are alternatives, you can claim that they are more or less efficient, however you can not argue that pre 1.18 had better sustainable SP as compared to post 1.18... i know you will try but you really cant, good bye surplus.
    Ok, so you agree pre-patch was faster. That's all I am saying. Like I told you before I know I can get SP now but it will take much longer and Yoshi said ranking up wouldn't be nerfed. Slower SP gain = ranking up is nerfed. How can you not agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei View Post
    Ok, so you agree pre-patch was faster. That's all I am saying. Like I told you before I know I can get SP now but it will take much longer and Yoshi said ranking up wouldn't be nerfed. Slower SP gain = ranking up is nerfed. How can you not agree?
    slower SP gains was met with no surplus which = the same or a little faster then old SP methods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    slower SP gains was met with no surplus which = the same or a little faster then old SP methods.
    you act like SP reduction was made to counter the removal of surplus. I already told you I'm getting less SP now than I did in behest while fatigued pre-patch.
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