SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[SuzakuCMX]

Leve mobs do not count as with guardians favor (even the new broken one) you get some bonus to SP afaik. And honestly only being able to do 8 every 1.5 days... that is NOT a viable form of xp. It's moreso done for the guild marks and faction credits.

Nope, Guardian's Favor doesn't do much.

And you can do 16 every 36 hour period.

Clearly you are doing something very wrong here.

EDIT: Oh and I was doing a R20 leve for the 200+ SP as a R25 THM :P

[Abriael]

I wonder how many people Kensei needs to tell him that he's dead wrong before he understands that

It's very easy to say 1.18 is awesome when you have a R50 ranked up pre-patch. The rest of us will take about 3 times as long if not more to get there.

You know that most of us don't stop at the first or second 50 right?

If any, you have it easy, because you didn't already do most of the story/side quests getting nothing from them.

[Pulseczar]

It's very easy to say 1.18 is awesome when you have a R50 ranked up pre-patch

Ah, so that is what this is about. lol

And you do realize they have other ways to SP now. Hell, even the side quests give good SP as rewards now.

[MookiesPM75]

You addressed them by saying "it's less" when really, in actuality, it's not by very much. My LS just ran our first leve linking since patch. We got 40k-50k for the 2 camps. we normally get about 60-70k but it was so much faster than usual, so we did a dungeon afterwards. after that, we got our 60-70k for the night, and it was A LOT more fun.

And when it comes to having to go places to gain sp in quests and such, it's better when you have friends to share the ride with. That seems to be your biggest problem right there. I bet you try to do everything solo. You totally can, but it isn't as fun.

Ranks/Camp/Timeframe?

[MookiesPM75]

Nope, Guardian's Favor doesn't do much.

And you can do 16 every 36 hour period.

Clearly you are doing something very wrong here.

EDIT: Oh and I was doing a R20 leve for the 200+ SP as a R25 THM :P

Like I said, I wasnt sure. It's still not impressive.

And... 16? You're counting crafting leves I'm assuming? Which do not benefit your main class at all... Please tell me I'm misunderstanding something there and that's not what you're actually talking about.

[AarosLunos]

I don't know if you are joking. The only "proof" has been a couple of guys who got a good amount of SP from leves which I don't know if you've heard can only be done 8 times every 36 hours. Also, way to ignore all the other posters in this thread and in the forum saying the exact same thing. Want proof? Go do behest, go kill mobs 10 ranks above you then come and tell me you get the same SP as pre-patch. It's very easy to say 1.18 is awesome when you have a R50 ranked up pre-patch. The rest of us will take about 3 times as long if not more to get there.

LOL THIS IS HILARIOUS. Stop insinuating that just because I have an R50 that I don't have other classes I care about either. But I guess its easier to stereotype anyone with more experience in the game as being elitist.

[Kensei]

You addressed them by saying "it's less" when really, in actuality, it's not by very much. My LS just ran our first leve linking since patch. We got 40k-50k for the 2 camps. we normally get about 60-70k but it was so much faster than usual, so we did a dungeon afterwards. after that, we got our 60-70k for the night, and it was A LOT more fun.

And when it comes to having to go places to gain sp in quests and such, it's better when you have friends to share the ride with. That seems to be your biggest problem right there. I bet you try to do everything solo. You totally can, but it isn't as fun.

You are missing the point altogether. I gave specific numbers in several posts, including the first one. Behest was the main way to rank up pre-patch, it is complete trash now. Your leve numbers are way exaggerated and again stop talking about leves, forget leves, they are only 8 every 36 hours, it's not a sustainable and constant source of SP how many times do I have to say it.

I never solo anything except quests and a friend being with me doesn't magically increase SP/hour rate. I don't think you realize how long it will take to rank up to 50 now. Obviously you have a few R50s already ranked up pre patch. Very easy to be pleased with the patch when you are in that position.

[SuzakuCMX]

Like I said, I wasnt sure. It's still not impressive.

And... 16? You're counting crafting leves I'm assuming? Which do not benefit your main class at all... Please tell me I'm misunderstanding something there and that's not what you're actually talking about.

You can do 8 from one city-state, then go to another and get 8 more.

Only problem is you only have enough for 8 from each city-state when you can get R30 leves (there's 2 R30 camps with 3 leves each, so 6 camps with 3 leves = 18 leves to do).

[Kensei]

LOL THIS IS HILARIOUS. Stop insinuating that just because I have an R50 that I don't have other classes I care about either. But I guess its easier to stereotype anyone with more experience in the game as being elitist.

Ok, let's forget about your R50. Now counter everything else I said.

[Neko_Yanagi]

Ranks/Camp/Timeframe?

Ranks 43-49 5 stars all leves (8 person pt)
Camp Broken Water and Halatali
2 1/2 hr at the camp (normally takes us up to 3 1/2 -4 hours)
R45 Dungeon afterward. I didn't go as the same job as I did for the leves, but others that did said they got 20k+ for 2 runs we did for fun (wasn't trying to complete it)