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  1. #41
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    In the end they did certainly talk it up big that you needed to buy their tickets and be present at the event in person to receive this item. They can word it and play it all they like but this just shows that they are only going for the biggest cash grab they can get with little to no care about their fans. Is this illegal? possibly... there could be a case on false advertising based on the route they went about it based on misleading or providing unclear or convoluted advertising in order to push sales on a commodity (especially since their USA office is based on california where these laws are rather strict) though I doubt anyone will ever care enough to do it. In the end they dont care about their reputation or the fans they care about the money and thats all this is about. This entire thing could have been avoided had they stated clearly that this was going to be available from the start but then there would be the risk of tickets not selling out or their VIP program not doing nearly as well and that means less money for them. Way to cash grab SE hope your livestream fails due to technical and you are forced to refund all the purchasers for failure to provide service
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  2. 10-09-2014 12:35 PM

  3. #42
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    MilleFeuille, we both disagree and I don't think neither one of us is budging. With that said, I really hope the Fan Fest turns out good enough to make the experience up to now worth it for me.
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  4. #43
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    Well, they are a business, I kind of expect them to do things in order to get money. That's their main goal. Especially since they're testing new waters with this Fan Festival. It's not something that the FF14 team has done before, so they are basically just winging it here. Though I'm sure they would have sold out anyway.

    That being said, there are a lot of factors that we really don't know about. It could be that they didn't expect to be able to make a live stream. That involves a lot of IT infrastructure that the Rio may or may not have already had in place, or it might have involved negotiating a change of contract with the Rio to set it up. There could also have been an issue with finding a site to host the premium stream. We will probably never know why it took them this long to announce it.
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  5. #44
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    Regardless of the reasoning the whole thing could still be viable for a case of false advertisement I do feel it was a waste of what is atm $2800 for hotel and airfare $400 for 2 VIP tickets $180 to renew my passport and whatever luggage fees I get charged at the airport not counting food or transport while there for the same perks minus a T-shirt (but is that really worth $3350+) for what will probably cost $30-60, I agree that a livestream is a fine idea for something like the liveletter or the lore panel and such but when its the entire coverage plus the in game item thats just not really fair to announce AFTER the fact.
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  6. 10-09-2014 11:37 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumina View Post
    Totally agree. It's not my sole reason for going, but it does seem shady that this wasn't announced until all of the tickets and VIP tickets had been sold. I hope the rumors of the Odin challenge with Sleipnir mount reward are true. I'd like to walk away with at least one special in game thing for attending in person.
    If this was a fan fest perma exclusive, they would have announced it long ago.
    I assume this rumor is true and fan fest people will get to fight him first and he will be added in 2.4,2.45, or 2.5. I doubt we will get rewards from him thought, but can possible just learn mechanics and stuff.

    At this point there is no chance anything special for fan fest attendees other than the experience of being there even though many have shelled out couple grand for being there.
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    Last edited by Tempting; 10-10-2014 at 06:38 AM.

  8. #46
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    A unique tattoo for the event would be cool to have for people who attended the event in person. Similar to what they gave Legacy players.
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  9. #47
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    Still no Price listed for the Live stream....way to cut it until the last minute. Why does it feel like SE does everything a tiny bit shady and underhanded. The live stream details should have been announced and prices listed at the time of the actual live ticket sales. Blizzard always updates the details at the same time and here we are, what a week from the show and no price set on the live stream. I would feel a bit cheated if I had been attending the Fan Fest, and I do not agree it is special snowflake syndrome. SE withheld any inkling that non-attendees could partake in the show and in-game rewards. This is just another example of the ZERO communication SE continues to follow.
    SE continues to act like they are a new, start-up company and we should chalk the miscommunication to the game only being a year old...give me a break, they have been in business a long time and what we ask for is not groundbreaking. TALK to us, tell the truth and stop hiding behind growing pains.
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    Last edited by Roarey; 10-14-2014 at 02:53 AM.

  10. #48
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    Yeah, i can't believe it's this late. and there's still no update. A lot of people can't just drop money on something on such short notice, so they're shooting everyone in the foot. It feels pretty crappy to me that i'm at all suspicious that a stream will even happen. Obviously something is wrong if i mistrust the organizers/company this much.

    I have a ticket to the festival, but the trip would be a big inconvenience to me. A worthwhile inconvenience, but still pretty big. And expensive. I'd get most of what i wanted out of attending with the premium stream, but if i cancel this trip, and the stream is cancelled or just plain bungled, i'm going to be livid. (Not to mention they announced the stream long after nonrefundable tickets were sold out, and the transfer period expired.)
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    Last edited by FifthDream; 10-14-2014 at 04:21 AM.

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    I'm happy to be going to meet people who are into the same game I spend an immense amount of time playing. Do I think they are guilty of false advertising, no, the wording was ambiguous and I highly doubt it was malicious. The tickets would have sold no matter what. Most of the Cosplayers would still be going, alot of people go for the human interaction in addition to the in-game items, and the panels. I'm sure in the future after this first one is down they will have a better idea of what it's going to take to make this happen. Also, one of the things that may have taken so long for all of this, is the possibility of contract negotiations with unions. Convention centers and hotels that host events like this generally fall under the jurisdiction of union crews, which could have made arranging things and the contracts a bit tricky for a first time event.

    Everyone has valid points and I look forward to seeing you all at the Fan Fest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FifthDream View Post
    CONT'D

    Yes, it is my own decision and ressponsibiliy to weigh the pros and cons, but we were not informed of the alternatives before the tickets went on sale. I would have chosen to stay at home, and view the event in comfort, and not have to spend a lot of money and try to sort out all the logistics if i had known. And i'm not even getting an exclusive in game item out of it.

    The one thing i have now is being able to POSSIBLY take pictures of cosplayers in person, assuming they let us take cameras in, and nothing happens to the camera on the way there. Oh, and a t-shirt. Also there is the possibility that rooms will not be large enough to hold all attendees, so i will have to arrive at every event early and hope i get in, while people at home just get to sit in front of their computers to see it all.

    I think i may cancel the entire trip and just stream it. Sure, the ticket money is non refundable, but the rest of the cost is, and i won't have the hassle of it all.
    WOW, people are really this bad at life? As with many of the other comments I have seen in this thread - this mentality is just atrocious.

    So..you only bought a ticket for the ingame items? Wait, what? Get real.


    The experience is what this kind of event is for. Perhaps you shouldn't have bought your ticket (like a few other people in this thread complaining as well) and left them for other people who actually wanted to go and EXPERIENCE the fanfest. Also, IF your health is and and you have a hard time on airplanes, you do not have to go. Don't pay for the tickets, the airfare and hotel and get on the fourm to bitch because you have the privilege/money to go and others cant....but your in game items ??!!?!? Please. What in the world is wrong with people these days?

    *you will be able to purchase things that the streaming people cannot and who knows, you could bring home Ebola too. :P
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