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[ZReport]

Who said I felt poor? Resorting to insults is so mature... not. Try again.

I actually own a rather nice plot, so poor isnt me, thank you very much.

The way you blasted off complaining about personal housing, one would assume you sounded like a person who had a gil problem, and directing unintended hate towards Yoshi-P and his team without your due diligence for the truth. So I assumed as much. My apologies.

Regardless, it is as I said, and you really don't have a valid rebuttal at all for complaining concerning personal housing. Yoshi-P has done nothing wrong outside the fact that he wasn't far more informative (much sooner) with his method of implementation.

[Teirshin]

The way you blasted off complaining about personal housing, one would assume you sounded like a person who had a gil problem, and directing unintended hate towards Yoshi-P and his team without your due diligence for the truth. So I assumed as much. My apologies.

Regardless, it is as I said, and you really don't have a valid rebuttal at all for complaining concerning personal housing. Yoshi-P has done nothing wrong outside the fact that he wasn't far more informative (much sooner) with his method of implementation.

Just because I can afford it doesnt mean I cant complain.

And imho (and the opinions of many others) he did lie.

All they did was take FC housing and allow it to be purchased by individuals.

Defend it if you want, but player housing was yet another thing overly hyped and implemented half-arsed, screwing over the players.

[ZReport]

Just because I can afford it doesnt mean I cant complain.

And imho (and the opinions of many others) he did lie.

All they did was take FC housing and allow it to be purchased by individuals.

Defend it if you want, but player housing was yet another thing overly hyped and implemented half-arsed, screwing over the players.

I'm not really defending it, I have a non-partial view to what happened. However, I do simply like to relate the facts, however mundane they sound to readers. You can hold it as an opinion that it was implemented half-arsed, but it was always planned to be implemented in that very manner since the start. It was simply not publicized as well as it should have been. Or maybe Yoshi-P didn't think it would receive as much backlash as it did.

What's done has been done, something like personal housing is a very unique situation that will likely never happen again. Speaking from the mindset of a programmer, the next time Yoshi-P has a high chance of dropping the ball again should be when they attempt to expand general character inventory.

We players do most of the hyping for the game, be it spurred on by the team or not. It's just something that happens. At least with personal housing, it becomes a game of patience, since the problem that needs to be solved can only be corrected by beefing up their servers or meticulously adding more and more wards with each successive patch to meet demand.

[RiceisNice]

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The way I see it, there's a cut difference between the players hyping up content for themselves (so such as hunts and new dungeons), and being told what's going to happen in future updates (like, and this has been beaten to death, the housing prices and what the devs had said up to now). Maybe it was the players' fault for hyping themselves that personal housing would be different (when being told that personal housing prices would be separate from FC, and thus more affordable, but eventhat's not being the case as far as the price is concerned.)

Can you imagine the backlash if they'd mention that we'd receive three new expert dungeons for a patch, but they ended up releasing only two and never bothered saying anything until the day of? That's, from what I see, essentially happened in regards to the pricing of personal houses. Not that prices are the big issue here, but it really leaves room for doubt when it comes to what to expect from when a developer makes a post. In the end, you want some sort of hype so players have something to look forward to, as well as word-of-mouth to sell the game.

[ZReport]

Can you imagine the backlash if they'd mention that we'd receive three new expert dungeons for a patch, but they ended up releasing only two and never bothered saying anything until the day of? That's, from what I see, essentially happened in regards to the pricing of personal houses. Not that prices are the big issue here, but it really leaves room for doubt when it comes to what to expect from when a developer makes a post. In the end, you want some sort of hype so players have something to look forward to, as well as word-of-mouth to sell the game.

I do see where you're coming from, but I think the dungeon example is not up to par. Simply because they've been setting a precedence of releasing three new expert dungeons for the last 3 patches now. However, I do understand and agree with your example, people would be let down or at least more reluctant to believe things he'd say.

The way I see it, he left the interpretation of personal housing pretty open ended and didn't do his due diligence in seeing just how important and just how big personal housing would be for the community. It was a large ball to drop, and will probably be the largest of his FFXIV career in this post-ARR world. We all know that he and his team climbed a hell of a mountain to even revive FFXIV, but the community doesn't want to see them rest on their proverbial laurels because of it.