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**Exstal** · 10-08-2014 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by RiceisNice

What am I wrong about exactly? Unless I'm missing something here, you're showing me the prices for plots from [2.1] have lowered going into [2.38]. The problem I'm referring to is how they would say "...prices will be completely separate from free company housing....", but slap on the abiltiy for individuals to purchase land and houses that used to be exclusive to FCs (and essentially, the same product and same pricing.)

I mentioned that they could possibly meant that "the prices we'll give this houses will be lower than what it is now", which is at best a misunderstanding and at worse misleading the context that the readers are supposed to get.

I must be misunderstanding something by the way you say "pricing".　Are you suggesting there should have been a different model for how to purchase housing? An auction type system, perhaps?　It's just shown that houses, even in the new wards, are far less expensive than FC housing was in 2.1。　It's not even comparable because 8～１０ million gil back in 2.1 would probably be closer to 30+ million gil right now. So Naoki was right when he said it would be more affordable. But as ZReport said, people thought 850k was going to be the baseline and failed to read further into it and got blind sided. Price should have never been a point of contention but space, but Tiggy posted just above you why that shouldn't be a problem either.

**Airikay** · 10-08-2014 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by Exstal

What did they lie about, exactly?　I didn't really follow housing myself but from what I understand、

”It'll be cheaper than FC housing”　- true, cheaper than launch FC housing compared to the amount of gil people had

Only true if you are legacy. Compare price of medium houses from launch to now on non legacy, same price. Also, small are same price as right after they halved them after launch. Only houses that are cheaper are mansions. How many personal mansions are on your server? Only 2 on mine.

**Exstal** · 10-08-2014 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by Airikay

Only true if you are legacy. Compare price of medium houses from launch to now on non legacy, same price. Also, small are same price as right after they halved them after launch. Only houses that are cheaper are mansions. How many personal mansions are on your server? Only 2 on mine.

Originally Posted by Exstal

No, you're 100% wrong.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a

compared to

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...6869b10e012e57

There is the proof. Just ctrl +F "Behemoth" and compare the two.

Behemoth is most certainly not a legacy. I'll edit when I leave Aurem Veil and find out how many people own mansions in each of the zones. (My guess is over 35).

If mansion means large, I was way off.　Only ６ people have large houses and 1 FC (in the new wards).

**Airikay** · 10-08-2014 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by Exstal

Behemoth is most certainly not a legacy. I'll edit when I leave Aurem Veil and find out how many people own mansions in each of the zones. (My guess is over 35).

You might want to read what I said and look at those prices again. Im seeing 30-37.5 for Behemoth on mediums for both.

**Evaddaragon** · 10-08-2014 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by Airikay

Only true if you are legacy. Compare price of medium houses from launch to now on non legacy, same price. Also, small are same price as right after they halved them after launch. Only houses that are cheaper are mansions. How many personal mansions are on your server? Only 2 on mine.

Not exactly true. Works for Goblin (your world), but not for Asura (another non-Legacy). It simply means people are, as a whole, richer on your server, and nothing else.

**Firepower** · 10-07-2014 07:09 AM

What I would like them to do for housing is since Yoshi said 2.4 would double the amount of housing:

All 3 housing zones have pathways leading to what seems to be an extra area, instead of doubling ward numbers use this and have the same number of wards at double size rather than double the amount of wards. I would like to see the housing wards be bustling areas with larger groups of people inside, When a ward is mostly individual housing you have a zone which has approximately no more than 30 or 50 occupants as the larger ones tend to still be FC, as opposed to a fully FC occupied ward (ward 1 for example) which could have over 200 people in the zone creating a much better atmosphere, I'm not sure how to fix this issue but I would like to see some sort of incentive to create wards with a more varied mix of FC's and individual rather than the earlier wards being almost FC only and the newer ones personal only.

Ninja looks good, nice to see Fenrir and the new hairstyles I sure hope are not NPC exclusive.

**Altanas** · 10-07-2014 07:57 AM

Hmm, class AF... Wonder if this is an indication of bringing classes in line with jobs

**Ryans** · 10-07-2014 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Altanas

Hmm, class AF... Wonder if this is an indication of bringing classes in line with jobs

Every class has had their own "AF" since 1.0. The ilvl 70 Gryphonskin, Darksteel, Heavy Darksteel, and Vanya sets were originally class exclusive, but were made usable by the job in 2.0. They are effectively the AF of classes. The Rogue set will undoubtedly be the same.

**Radacci** · 10-10-2014 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Tiggy

It's almost like there is a fan festival in less than 2 weeks. Could you possibly for one second consider that just maybe they are saving the big reveal for the massive in-person event? That might be expecting too much though.

uhm, that's unrealistic expectation

they already announced new coil, new class/job, new primal, new dungeons; what more would you expect?
if they haven't already announced it by now, then don't expect anything major.
i'd guess it will be some more QoL stuff, new crafting recipes, maybe higher DoH/L ilv gear. new main quest, some side quests, new pets, etc.
though, there's 2 open job-stone slots, so...maybe...THF, you can have this.
I think revealing info about expansion, is quite big enough of an announcement...

Originally Posted by Hik0

- you need to collect <element> energy from <element>crystals in order to summon <element> Primal.
- there is no

in ffxiv.
=> No dark primal !

- Ifrit/Titan/Garuda 1st fights were 4man lvlcapped story fight, ultima was a dongeon boss
- we have access to harder 8man trials for them .
=> it's not because the first encounter is a 4man/dungeon boss that he won't make a come back as a stronger trail fight!

yet.
there's the Ascians, though, and whatever god they are worshiping.

**Tupsi** · 10-07-2014 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Altanas

Hmm, class AF... Wonder if this is an indication of bringing classes in line with jobs

Nope, as that would defeat the purpose of jobs altogether - Also, Class AF started in 1.x, the 'Vanya' set for example was largely seen as the THM AF set.

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