Competent as your LS mages may be. That doesnt help with MP management. They will still run out regardless how well they are at the class. I personally play both mage classes, and the revisions to the spells imo was very overwhelming. I embrace a good challenge, and think MP management is very important, however the limited mp pool is a issue due to the very high mp consumption now. I suppose if we get (RDM) as a job, and that comes with the abilty of refresh, then i think the game balance will be more visiable. Right now the game is even worse than it was pre-patch. I do recall SE saying this will be the rawest version of auto-attack, and battle refinements. I will wait and play extremly casualy until the game reachs the level of considerable satisfaction. Right now the game is slowly getting on its legs, but i can see us losing more people due to the limitations, and mp consumption. We need a stronger player base, and not keep losing (Future paying customers). All and all the game has much to improve on, and this patch imo wasnt a good direction for the game. Hopefully things will get better. I am assuming patch 1.20 when we get jobs the game will start to come alive, and people will see what directon Yoshi has in store for us, and ffxiv. /Cheers