Please add clearance condition to Group Finder

[ExKage]

Make perfect sense to me. Actually that is begging with even higher stakes. It doesn't do much for your ego or pride, but it is what it is. Taking the initiative is requires effort.

What the hell I don't even.

Calling them and asking them to go out is taking the initiative and is the effort. What are you going to call not begging in that situation? I. What even.

[NyarukoW]

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Calling them and asking them to go out is taking the initiative and is the effort. What are you going to call not begging in that situation? ....

When they seek you out, then they are begging you. What is so wrong with begging? Everyone has to it all the time. It is all part of the give an take. So do not do others what you would not want done to you, and at the same time do unto others as you would want other to do unto you. Fair is fair.

Beg, beseech, request, ask, etc. it all the same. I am not some monk that has taken a vow or poverty or anything like that, but there is no shame in being a beggar. Being newer, poorer, lesser, there is no shame in that either, in game or in life. That is just where you are now, it is in "the how"/"the way" you get to where you want to go that matters. And being mean to newbies with the "no newbies wanted" check box is not the right way.

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In this case, the checkbox is the equivalent of the 'no solicitation' placard, not the equivalent of setting my hypothetical dogs on them.

Actually the comments that people may ignore is like the "no solicitation placard". A "no newbies wanted" check box is like the dogs, because it actually has the teeth of the system to enforce it.

[ExKage]

-snip I don't even-

By your definition, every single person on the world is a beggar in every single action they take. You are a beggar. I am a beggar. There is no reason to use the word. It's not a descriptor that differentiates one from another because everyone is a beggar!

[NyarukoW]

By your definition, every single person on the world is a beggar in every single action they take. You are a beggar. I am a beggar.

Actually you are very correct and very wise in saying that. Most major world religion will agree with you. The buddhist will you that is the nature of the human condition, the endless insatiable desire, always wanting, always begging. The Christians will tell you, we are but beggars for the salvation from Christ's holy sacrifice. But I don't want to get off on odd tangents.

There is no reason to use the word. It's not a descriptor that differentiates one from another because everyone is a beggar!

Here is where you off track with the logic. Everyone is human, yet we use the word human, just like everything in the known universe is matter, yet we use the word matter. Because it does matter. And that is forgetting not everyone is a beggar all the time.

[Ashkendor]

But I don't want to get off on odd tangents.

You crossed that line a looooooong time ago.