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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiryuukishi View Post
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    Are not primals. Gilgamesh is a trial encounter. Good King Moogle Mog XII is an aspect of moogle lore made manifest due to fear.



    Not to be rude but... who's argument is arbitrary again? Seems you came into this with no understanding of the game's lore.

    INB4 FFXI anything...
    Never played FFXI.

    Wind primal could be anything, Typhon, Choco, Mog, Syldra, the very same Fenrir, Pandemonium from VIII lol... any of these could have been the "wind primal".
    We are not talking about they being primals or not, we are talking about them not being Trial Battles, if not being a primal is an excuse to not have a trial battle, then why gilgamesh, king mog or ultima are in the trials are not bosses on their own dungeons?

    Arbitrary argument is arbitrary.

    Fenrir was being teased since 1.0 as a primal. On the live letters they shown the concept art as "Banshin Fenrir-ru".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Fenrir was being teased since 1.0 as a primal. On the live letters they shown the concept art as "Banshin Fenrir-ru".
    This is the first I've heard of this. Would you care to provide a source for this information?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    We are not talking about they being primals or not, we are talking about them not being Trial Battles, if not being a primal is an excuse to not have a trial battle, then why gilgamesh, king mog or ultima are in the trials are not bosses on their own dungeons?
    I always see Ultima as the boss from Preatorium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    We are not talking about they being primals or not, we are talking about them not being Trial Battles, if not being a primal is an excuse to not have a trial battle, then why gilgamesh, king mog or ultima are in the trials are not bosses on their own dungeons?

    Fenrir was being teased since 1.0 as a primal. On the live letters they shown the concept art as "Banshin Fenrir-ru".
    Actually.....Ultima is a last boss in a dungeon....so...

    SE can very easily surprise us and have Fenrir be a trial battle on top of being a dungeon boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Actually.....Ultima is a last boss in a dungeon....so...

    SE can very easily surprise us and have Fenrir be a trial battle on top of being a dungeon boss.
    Good! But will happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Good! But will happen?
    ....Why would you think I know if it will happen? All I'm saying is there is proof in the game that it CAN happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    ....Why would you think I know if it will happen? All I'm saying is there is proof in the game that it CAN happen.
    Except that Ultima is the final boss of the main storyline and have a huge influence in the story while diabolos, siren and fenrir have almost no story except "hey i'm a notorious bad guy that do bad things in a dungeon, comme kill me, i have shinies !!! ( shiny purified water !)
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Except that Ultima is the final boss of the main storyline and have a huge influence in the story while diabolos, siren and fenrir have almost no story except "hey i'm a notorious bad guy that do bad things in a dungeon, comme kill me, i have shinies !!! ( shiny purified water !)
    One of the screenshots shows Fenrir in front of Shiva's aetheryte crystal. He clearly has more of a place in the story than just being a dungeon boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Snip.
    You're straw manning now and yes the fundamental fuss over Fenrir is that he is not a primal but a dungeon boss. I literally could give a crap less if he was a primal, dungeon boss, mini dungeon boss or a hunt target. To me he is an overgrown dog. Your notion that anyone's argument but your own is arbitrary is at best amusing and at the same time a show of your inability to present anything but common sense. There are many summons from previous titles that did not make the cut. Bismarck is a guild hall. Atomos is mid boss in LotA. Where's the outcry for them? If you're gonna stand on your soapbox and preach for one got to do it for them all. But you won't because it's not what the rest of the horn blowing, disrespectful, ungrateful lot want. Oh yessir, gotta jump on that bandwagon for sure. Can't enjoy what they spend hours making for you to enjoy so you have to try and make others miserable with you.
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    Again I saw that under the sun the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise, nor riches to the intelligent, nor favor to those with knowledge, but time and chance happen to them all.