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[Exstal]

> It's exactly the same pricing as FC housing. All it's done is allow non-FC people to buy houses for the same prices as FC. If they wanted to refer to it as "It'll be cheaper than it is now", then I have no comment on that since I haven't played since release, but it's still pretty damn despicable since "cheaper than FC housing" is easily interpreted as just that, cheaper than FC housing, and especially when they keep it under wraps up to the day of release.

No, you're 100% wrong.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a

compared to

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...6869b10e012e57

There is the proof. Just ctrl +F "Behemoth" and compare the two.

[Ahmbor]

No, you're 100% wrong.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a

compared to

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...6869b10e012e57

There is the proof. Just ctrl +F "Behemoth" and compare the two.

B..but... m...muh rage...

[Tiggy]

No, you're 100% wrong.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a

compared to

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...6869b10e012e57

There is the proof. Just ctrl +F "Behemoth" and compare the two.

I've got to be fair while yes those prices are different it doesn't mean personal housing is different. Those 2 new wards were added at the price listed in the 2.38 patch notes. The housing is not specifically for personal use so the house price is not specifically for personal purchases. The houses simply have different values than the original 5 wards did. This is for both personal and guild purchases. I really wanted to believe you too, but I don't think it works that way.

[Exstal]

I've got to be fair while yes those prices are different it doesn't mean personal housing is different. Those 2 new wards were added at the price listed in the 2.38 patch notes. The housing is not specifically for personal use so the house price is not specifically for personal purchases. The houses simply have different values than the original 5 wards did. This is for both personal and guild purchases. I really wanted to believe you too, but I don't think it works that way.

They made the mistake of allowing FCs to be able to purchase them. Wards 7 and 8 in all servers should have been for personal houses *only*. That is their mistake (ontop of lack of wards haha).

[Tiggy]

They made the mistake of allowing FCs to be able to purchase them. Wards 7 and 8 in all servers should have been for personal houses *only*. That is their mistake (ontop of lack of wards haha).

This would have had a stupid effect on the games housing. They either should be segregated permanently or mixed freely. They choose mixed freely. You have to remember they don't play the short game they play the long game. In a years time it would likely seem very silly that only two zones were limited this way. The only problem here is that people actually think there should be housing space for everyone. Which will never, ever, ever happen. In the end there will always be a finite amount of space. Simply making those zones available for personal housing would have done nothing more than appease people for a month or two and in the long run would have been a very poor choice.

People need to try and get it through their heads. Housing is intended to be prestigious. You don't have a right to have a house. Based on how many people play it's going to realistically impossible to have enough plots for everyone since the server costs would be astronomical. Eventually getting a house will require you to have the money, watch for plots to be forfeited due to 30days of inactivity from various players, and snatch that house up before someone else does. Any suggestions to help personal houses completely overlooks the fact everyone isn't supposed to have one.

The way I see it they made 2 mistakes.

1) They made statements about personal housing being separate. Clearly due to technical requirements that wasn't very realistic. They should have vocalized this instead of surprising us with patch notes.
2) They should have held off until more zones could be added at once. 2 wasn't enough considering many FCs were waiting for housing as well. If they could only add 2 they probably should have held off on personal housing to clear out the FCs that were waiting. They did however immediately tell us they are expanding that at 2.4 so the situation should improve soon. 2.4 with this upgrade to capacity is when personal housing should have launched.

[Shougun]

Any suggestions to help personal houses completely overlooks the fact everyone isn't supposed to have one.

And so many have suggested that is the wrong goal/desire in the first place XD. I mean that is the current reality, but I don't like it and I will be appropriately non-complacent lol.

As for 2.4, I hope the dungeon drops are not a vanity it or no point kind of drop, or at least a few items out of the table.

[Tiggy]

And so many have suggested that is the wrong goal/desire in the first place XD. I mean that is the current reality, but I don't like it and I will be appropriately non-complacent lol. .

Doesn't matter if it's the goal or desire. There is a limit to how much they will spend on server resources for each of those instanced housing zones, or do you think the player base would be happy with a monthy sub price increase just so they could fund housing servers for everyone? I don't.

[RiceisNice]

No, you're 100% wrong.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a

compared to

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...6869b10e012e57

There is the proof. Just ctrl +F "Behemoth" and compare the two.

What am I wrong about exactly? Unless I'm missing something here, you're showing me the prices for plots from [2.1] have lowered going into [2.38]. The problem I'm referring to is how they would say "...prices will be completely separate from free company housing....", but slap on the abiltiy for individuals to purchase land and houses that used to be exclusive to FCs (and essentially, the same product and same pricing.)

I mentioned that they could possibly meant that "the prices we'll give this houses will be lower than what it is now", which is at best a misunderstanding and at worse misleading the context that the readers are supposed to get.

[Exstal]

What am I wrong about exactly? Unless I'm missing something here, you're showing me the prices for plots from [2.1] have lowered going into [2.38]. The problem I'm referring to is how they would say "...prices will be completely separate from free company housing....", but slap on the abiltiy for individuals to purchase land and houses that used to be exclusive to FCs (and essentially, the same product and same pricing.)

I mentioned that they could possibly meant that "the prices we'll give this houses will be lower than what it is now", which is at best a misunderstanding and at worse misleading the context that the readers are supposed to get.

I must be misunderstanding something by the way you say "pricing".　Are you suggesting there should have been a different model for how to purchase housing? An auction type system, perhaps?　It's just shown that houses, even in the new wards, are far less expensive than FC housing was in 2.1。　It's not even comparable because 8～１０ million gil back in 2.1 would probably be closer to 30+ million gil right now. So Naoki was right when he said it would be more affordable. But as ZReport said, people thought 850k was going to be the baseline and failed to read further into it and got blind sided. Price should have never been a point of contention but space, but Tiggy posted just above you why that shouldn't be a problem either.

[Xystic]

It's not even comparable because 8～１０ million gil back in 2.1 would probably be closer to 30+ million gil right now.

I was actually thinking 5-9 times that lol.