Patch 2.4 Preview

**ZReport** · 10-07-2014 05:24 AM

Not too sure why Personal Housing has suddenly dimmed everyone's view on the game. It was released just as it was supposed to be, with subsequent additions on the way thereafter. Everything they plan or talk about is always subject to change, right up until the last minute. However, Yoshi-P usually comes through on promises, even if it takes a few more months.

Gold Saucer was already confirmed to not be in 2.4, same as the Eternal Bond system. Rogue/Ninja was already confirmed to be the only job that will be added, multiple times, while the Gun class was pushed back to the expansion. They can do this if they want. Everyone already knew two remixed dungeons and one new dungeon was on par for the course for the last 3 major patches now, this should not be new to anyone. Everyone also knows that coil is coming as well. Between the two upcoming Fan Fests, there should be a lot of talk about both patch 2.4 as well as the expansion itself, as they've been promising for the last 8 months.

Blame yourselves for your lack of patience and overhyping. You all know what's up with the 3 month major patch cycle. Implementing patches and expansions is a gigantic task and can't be done in a short time.

I'm excited for 2.4 and the expansion, myself.

**Rumpelstiltzkin** · 10-07-2014 06:22 AM

I don't understand how it is the communitys fault that "Dagger and gun class sooner than you think" just before E3 turns into only dagger class with one job for 2.4 which quite frankly is not at all sooner than many thought. SE are masters of announcing announcements which just builds unnecessary hype and it breeds dissapointment for no reason, especially when it does not even come close to what the initial announcement would suggest is within reason.

**lololink** · 10-07-2014 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltzkin

I don't understand how it is the communitys fault that "Dagger and gun class sooner than you think" just before E3 turns into only dagger class with one job for 2.4 which quite frankly is not at all sooner than many thought. SE are masters of announcing announcements which just builds unnecessary hype and it breeds dissapointment for no reason, especially when it does not even come close to what the initial announcement would suggest is within reason.

I think they never said that gunner will come with ninja, it was all the community guessing.
They said that a new class will come, community said Gunner ( because guns guild is the only one remaining and not available ) then they said it was ninja and the community thought gunner and ninja.

**Mugiawara** · 10-07-2014 06:30 AM

We only get 1 new dungeon?
Wow.

Originally Posted by silentwindfr

ps: we only get one new dungeon per patch, but we have too 2 hm version that are different of the normal version

I'd like more NEW dungeons than tweaking dungeons we've already have.
I'm just being picky and say I would like to see more new dungeons than tweaking
old ones. Tam Tara barely did anything different at all, in the way of looks. It felt like
Tam Tara NM and I did it once and never again lol. I've done enough Tam Tara period.
Not to mention 4 man parties are sadly easy and barely have replay value.
[Hullbreaker is probably the best 4man. It's crazy fun and gorgeous!]

Well hopefully there a lot more neat things to come, it's just a preview so I won't jump
to say it's the "worst" yet. Might get more light in a week or two. It's ok for now, SE killed my hype
for any thing anymore after their blatant lies from Personal Housing. Lying's bad mkay.

**silentwindfr** · 10-07-2014 06:30 AM

bout the housing, the trouble is more about what they can or can't do. they have try to please a part of the community saying that they don't want intanced stuff. but at the end the residential ward are extremely heavy on them server.what trouble me is when i read yoshida say that upgrade the server for better one will be the last option they will use...
we are into a mmorpg, where the server is more important than anything and they think it's better to use the maximum of the server and push it into him limit before upgrade it. i dunno any mmorpg that did that, it's dangerous on too many way. since they have trouble of place on the server the game did encounter numerous limitation. instead to give the dev team more freedom for them creation he think it's better to not change the server that was already not strong enough for the actual popultion.

we all know that Yoshida himself did admit right after the release last years that they didn't expect the succes of the game. right now the game is on the verge to loose people because they don't want to accept to get the tool strong enough for the actual population of the game. worst they continue to release content that are not adapted at the population per server (hunt/housing). i will not talk of them choice for the raid difficulty or some of the really really bad choice about the progression in the game.

i think yoshida and it team need to stop to look to the number of them statistic but the reality. they need a Public Test Server for understand how work the player from all the world, not only japanese! if they don't want to understand us, why release the game in the whole world? i can understand that they want to please the japanese public but it's time to please the rest of the world.

ps: we only get one new dungeon per patch, but we have too 2 hm version that are different of the normal version

**RoninDarkchild** · 10-07-2014 06:38 AM

Does anyone else see a Re-skinned FFXI Scorpion? XD

**Airikay** · 10-07-2014 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by ZReport

Not too sure why Personal Housing has suddenly dimmed everyone's view on the game. It was released just as it was supposed to be, with subsequent additions on the way thereafter.

They lied about it. Said one thing, did another and didn't try to correct themselves. It wasn't released as it was suppose to be originally stated, it was a lazy work around where they just slapped personal housing with FC housing and called it a day. The thing starts, where if you lie to your consumer, who's to say they won't do it again? So now everyone just expects the worse possible outcome, because that's what housing became.

**ZReport** · 10-07-2014 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Airikay

They lied about it. Said one thing, did another and didn't try to correct themselves. It wasn't released as it was suppose to be originally stated, it was a lazy work around where they just slapped personal housing with FC housing and called it a day. The thing starts, where if you lie to your consumer, who's to say they won't do it again? So now everyone just expects the worse possible outcome, because that's what housing became.

They actually didn't lie about anything:

Q1: What’s the difference between Free Company housing and individual player housing?
A1: Fundamentally, there will not be many differences since individual housing will have the same features as Free Company housing when it is released; however, there will be differences in regards to whether the parks and towers are set for personal use or for Free Company members.

This was directly lifted from Producer Letter LIVE V, a while back. There was no need to "try and correct themselves," because they never lied in the first place. Players saw a misinterpretation of an amount of 850k per house (it was a inside joke between Yoshi-P and a dev; 850k is something that's impossibly low) and let their imaginations take them wherever it wanted to go concerning Personal Housing. However now, the resentment by this fiasco has taken a life of it's own, and people are starting to downplay anything that's said by the team for no reason at all.

SE is at fault however, for not emphasizing or bringing more information out concerning Personal Housing, so as to dispel notions and expectations that the playerbase created for themselves prior to patch.

**Teirshin** · 10-07-2014 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by ZReport

They actually didn't lie about anything:

Um.... really?

Yoshi's original statement was "While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable".

I'd call that straight up BS... aka a lie.

**ZReport** · 10-07-2014 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Teirshin

Um.... really?

Yoshi's original statement was "While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable".

I'd call that straight up BS... aka a lie.

It is actually far more affordable. Here's a pricing chart with your server used as an example (Gilgamesh):

Code:

5th Class => 1st Class Plots

Free Company Housing Before Devaluation:

Small 	8,000,000       8,500,000 	9,000,000 	9,800,000       10,000,000
Medium 	30,000,000 	31,875,000 	33,750,000 	35,625,000 	37,500,000
Large 	100,000,000 	106,250,000 	112,500,000 	118,750,000 	125,000,000

Personal Houses Before Devaluation:

 
Small	4,000,000	        4,250,000	        4,500,000	        4,750,000	        5,000,000
Medium	30,000,000	        31,875,000	        33,750,000	        35,625,000	        37,500,000
Large 	70,000,000	        74,375,000	        78,750,000	        83,125,000	        87,500,000

Personal Houses After Maximum Devaluation (After 30 Days):


Small	2,000,000	       2,125,000	        2,250,000	        2,375,000              2,500,000
Medium	15,000,000	       15,937,000	        16,875,000	        17,812,500	       18,750,000
Large 	35,000,000	       37,187,500	        39,375,000	        41,562,000	       43,750,000

We didn't even get to see any devaluation at all because everything was bought up on most if not all servers within the very first day of implementation. Which in lies the true problem, A lack of wards & plots. Once land comes available and devalues properly without incident, even a small plot of land will be affordable to the most casual player. To go further, under full devaluation, a large plot of land in the 1st Class area would be 18.8 million gil cheaper for a personal house than the same plot for a FC house.

I'm sorry you feel poor, but not everyone has your individual problem. The prices are indeed completely separate from free company housing and far more affordable.

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