It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[KikInperi]

What good are 'friends' if you can't be honest? I'm in a static with a healer buddy and if he does something bad, I tell him, and if I mess up, he tells me. I tell my own husband that he needs to improve if he's not doing what he is suppose to.

I'm not going to lie to someone and tell them they are doing good when they aren't, friend or not. If you can't be honest with your friend(s) then what kind of friendship is that?

Back to OP: Doesn't bother me either way, if no loots and no unlocks, then it shouldn't effect anything/anyone.

I think these people are aware they're not good enough to beat it as is, hence this thread, but they still want to play together. I think kicking people defeats the purpose of playing for some people, I don't think it's about not being honest with each other... I'm still friends with my friends who aren't good at video games =P

[SevValen]

What good are 'friends' if you can't be honest? I'm in a static with a healer buddy and if he does something bad, I tell him, and if I mess up, he tells me. I tell my own husband that he needs to improve if he's not doing what he is suppose to.

I'm not going to lie to someone and tell them they are doing good when they aren't, friend or not. If you can't be honest with your friend(s) then what kind of friendship is that?

Back to OP: Doesn't bother me either way, if no loots and no unlocks, then it shouldn't effect anything/anyone.

Did I mention anything about lying or telling someone not to improve whether its a friend or not?No I didnt in fact that's a great way to help them so one day if you guys still haven't cleared it you have a higher chance of clearing it than before. There's nothing wrong with helping peple you know get through it which was the point of that post you quoted.

[MeiUshu]

What good are 'friends' if you can't be honest? I'm in a static with a healer buddy and if he does something bad, I tell him, and if I mess up, he tells me. I tell my own husband that he needs to improve if he's not doing what he is suppose to.

I'm not going to lie to someone and tell them they are doing good when they aren't, friend or not. If you can't be honest with your friend(s) then what kind of friendship is that?

Back to OP: Doesn't bother me either way, if no loots and no unlocks, then it shouldn't effect anything/anyone.

I hope you are giving tips on how to improve because telling someone that he needs to improve without telling how is kind of mute point since he will have no clues where to improve and how ?

Besides, I am pretty sure you not going to kick your buddy friend or husband as opposed to someone you dont know right when that someone messes up ?

I would call this hypocrite ...wouldnt you ?

IN this thread there is so much of higher then though attitude that is annoying to say the least, as if everybody that is that higher then though were born with insta knowledge when probably they might have been carried or had friends to put up with their dumbness for long period of times until they got it right...

again hypocrite ? yeah very muchs o

Mei

[Moomba33]

I'd love to see a story mode version of coil.
So far all of my attempts to learn t5 have ended with the group disbanding after wiping at the conflags/fireballs a few times.

If it weren't for the story I wouldn't touch coil at all as I don't care about loot or feel like dedicating time to learning challenging fights with a static group.
Single player FF games have tended to have little or no story attached to the superbosses and even then they were easy to kill with the right setup with relatively little focus on execution.
I understand that I won't be able to clear all content in this game as there is more emphasis on execution and relying on teammates but it's frustrating to miss out on story because of it.
I actually have watched the available scenes on youtube but it would be great to have them available with my character in the Journal.

Whether or not this is a reasonable thing for SE to spend resources developing is an important consideration. I'd be curious to see some numbers regarding how many players have cleared t5 at this point.

[Empressia]

Obviously not ppl cant beat turn 5 with the echo buff


What good would that do to kick people that suck? What if the people that suck are fc mates , friends or rl friends you'd be denying them the chance of beating it. And again its obviously not easy to get a t5 win if alot of people still cant get a win

Sorry dude, but i've seen enough "carry me please t5" fc members who got bigheaded and goin t6 only to fail HORRIBLY EPIC

[Akira_Tenshi]

*slow blink* As if 20% echo in The first coil and soon to be second coil isnt enough

Doesn't save you from instant death mechanics though does it.

[saeedaisspecial]

Doesn't save you from instant death mechanics though does it.

No, but moving a few steps isn't really a difficult thing to do either, and all that echo helps you meet DPS checks you otherwise wouldn't make with half of your party dead.

[BloodPact]

No, but moving a few steps isn't really a difficult thing to do either, and all that echo helps you meet DPS checks you otherwise wouldn't make with half of your party dead.

It might not be difficult for you, but it is for other people. Debating about the level of difficulty of a fight is 100% opinion. People constantly getting KOed on Twisters and not being able to evade dives and getting pushed to the edge is a fact. I've helped a number of people in there and it's always the same.

But aside from that response to saeedaisspecial, to the entire group of people who oppose the story mode of this dungeon:

It doesn't affect any of us in the least. Anyone can still clear that on its original difficulty by jumping on i75 gear and clicking the Echo off. If storymode is added there's no reason this should change. So what's the negative part of this addition to your playstyle? Nothing? So it's selfishness then?

[Tsuwu]

Unneeded.
Really, we were just laughing at how cheap and easy T5 has become.
What used to be a 8 man tightrope of a fight now requires 3 competent players and 5 people could nearly run into the flames as soon as the Ghosts are pulled.

Adding a story mode would make already derp easy content even easier, leading people to expect it.
Just no, please.

[Yoninxi]

I'm sorry , its too easy to get a T5 win nowadays. If you can't win, you aren't trying hard enough. Make your own kill party and kick people who are trying to get carried or just flat out suck.