Thurmaturge OWNED

[Kiote]

I would also like to point out that, seeing as every class is two classes, your not going to be effective in anything unless you lean toward it. THM has to choose between Light and Dark. Lean your Elements, you can't do both.

[syntaxlies]

i wouldn't give up on thm yet, if they go black-mage as job it will still prove very useful.

[Kiote]

i wouldn't give up on thm yet, if they go black-mage as job it will still prove very useful.

They won't go Black Mage, thats for Conjurers. They will go some form of Red Mage or Dark Knight

[Sorel]

They won't go Black Mage, thats for Conjurers. They will go some form of Red Mage or Dark Knight

Thaumaturges can't go Red Mage. Conjurers have Fastcast and Chainspell.

Thaumaturge might be able to pull off Scholar ... but that's about it as far as mage Jobs go. As for Black, Red, & White Mage ... Conjurer is clearly being groomed for those Jobs.

[syntaxlies]

They won't go Black Mage, thats for Conjurers. They will go some form of Red Mage or Dark Knight

well no matter what happens it will be a chance to redeem the class into something more useful. Hopefully they don't blow it.

[Chocobits]

Why don't we just bury the godawful mage jobs we have and redo them properly: 1 job that is a healer/buffer, 1 job that is a nuker/debuffer. WHM and BLM. This attempt at innovation worked for awhile because of the way AoE worked, and ironically THM was the better healer to due to the way its aoe worked and its potent regen. Now, CON is the goto man for nuking AND healing? And THM is stripped of any aoe of concern? I don't see this working out, especially with the new mp costs/recasts unless both jobs are majorly overhauled to make more sense.

[KaiKatzchen]

Sounds like I was one of the few that leveled CON expecting it to become the WHM in the game.

In my opinion, to me it felt like CON was a WHM/BLM mix and THAU seems more like a RDM/DRK mix so I always figured it would end up with CON being the main healer and THAU having a different role.

I personally like most of the update, the things I don't like I'll just adjust and get used too.

Back when they did the players poll like 70-80% of the players said they wouldn't be against major changes, that they would welcome them.

Funny that it went from yes to major changes to (what seems like) constant complaining. Just try it out for a few weeks, see how it goes, ya'll might actually get used to the changes.

[RedAffinity]

They should adjust the enfeebling spells of THM to last longer. Example: Slow, if it sticks, lasts 10-15 seconds maybe. Recast is 1 minute or so..

[TheVedis]

and this is why i leveled both conj and thm,. not just 1 or the other

im glad i can still pick and choose what i wanna do

[thenewzero]

I think things will look a lot better once Jobs are released and we can specialize more.