Goodbye cleric stance.. you will be sorely missed

[Zyphione]

Yep Divine and I go back and forth in our post responding to each other he has done the same to me ...there are others who feel the same way.. I know some that refuse to even bother reading his post

I did say it I posted directly to him also

Huh? Never felt like it was an attacked I just didn't agree it was removed all together

Yep Divine CAN NOT accept others opinion when they don't agree with his.. he comes off very Elitist, condescending, he makes assumptions about things or people he shouldn't he also shouldn't try to force his views on
others.. people have the right to NOT agree

I NEVER made a comment to remove all skills! read further down to what I actually said... whose the 1 making unintelligent comments now?

The comment Fyce respond to

When Fyce made his point I understood so I didn't bother responding

Just because hes the producer who makes these types of decisions to modify or make changes doesn't mean I have to like it or agree with it.

I was sure I was only one who had doubt about reading English well? But after see this my doubt removed. It seem real problem is you misunderstand or do not clarify before typing post.

I explain to you so you see clearer, please excuse if rude.

You miss all point I make and even do not understand my context but you reply still? Maybe next time better to clarify before make such way to reply.

I do not say you feel attacked? I was sure mention that "many feel this way" but do not know why you single self out? Is because I quote you at start of post?
This what I mean by you do not understand context of post. If you not feeling attack then do not need to say "i do not feel attack", if you say such thing then maybe you really feel that way.

Everyone disagree with each other but is not normal disagreement. Is disagree with sake to argue until people set in your way. Divine giving example and you give hypotheticals? That is all post I see from you is you draw situation but do not give any way to confirm.
No data.
Is too easy to for example say "MRD critical me 4000HP!" but no real proof of such thing make it hard to see your comment as anything beside repetitive complaining. Most of your comment in many thread is illustrate situation, maybe this is why Divine and you no agreement on anything?

Would not be such blaring issue if you did not pick more than 1 thread to fight with him/her.

If that's the case then every skill in any class/job is suppose to only be used in PVE and not PVP.

This is call implied reasoning. Facet of logical consequence? Is your way of say "if thats case that all skill like stance then every skill also suppose to only be use in pve and not pvp" ?
Am I right to say this?
But reason I say is unintelligent is because stance can not be compared to regular skill. If you read my reply instead of cherrypick, you would see my reasoning, where and why. You ask me who is make the unintelligent comment now? Still you, because you never read past reply fully or you fail when understand what I reference.

If you really understand stance can not be compare then you would not have made such statement in latest reply to me.

You say understand Fyce post so never reply to him?
I use his same logic in my previous post but you still reply to me about it? In reality you never truly understand then. If not, would not have make such mistake.

Yes, but only if you assume that every PvE skill of every class is unbalanced and does not fit in a PvP environment... which is obviously not the case.

Cleric stance, however, was unbalanced in PvP.

Because PVP not initially inside of game and was add later, stance have long been proven after to be overpower just by gearwork of skill and how it twist character stat value to turn healer into DPS class without burst factor outside of Ruin II spam. It was not skill meant for PVP and more for leveling or PVE, therefore was remove. Gearwork of skill not meant to be modify, therefore was not modify.

If you understand as you say you do, you would not have reply to this at all.

This is child's game you playing? Not reading people reply and trying to think you understand before clarify anything? Would not be better for you ask me "why you say is unintelligent?" first before shoot snide remark?
Your wheel turning backwards.

You do not watch live letter broadcast? Producer understand PVP people unhappiness but he ask us to give him time to work on thing. Seem you very impatient? Maybe if understand thing better then will not feel this way? I do not know, but behavior of constantly say "developer this" and "developer that" even after having him say these word, betray your own word.
There is limit to how far voice opinion will go before turn into complain or tantrum.

Yes, you do not need to agree.
You do not need to like.
But repeating behavior in more than this thread toward Divine is very silly. Your reply have always been same with no new information and more than 1 thread of such thing.

I think is larger problem any person can be so repetitive and rude in more than 1 thread and try to pass off as acceptable behavior by saying you do not have to like decisions made by developers of the game? Excessive and repetitive complaining look like suffering victimization from change.

Please sort out thoughts if plan to quote reply to me, it would be very tiring if I have to breakdown thing you do not understand specially for you. Do not know what was so hard to understand without this post to clarify for you but I am not bother.
I hope explanation is clear enough however and maybe in future you can post something too that contribute instead of complain?

Thank you for well wishes!

why is this thread still going? we're just talkin about the same ish over and over again