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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    Sure they may have said we'd have separated wards, but honestly thats all they really "lied" about. They said it'd be cheaper than what housing was at the time and IT IS. Besides, housing is decorating, bird raising and MAYBE gardening if you have the time and patience.
    No, the price you pay for a personal house = the price you pay for an FC house. They are no cheaper. The statement from Yoshi was that they would cost less than FC housing. This is why that is called out as a "lie", because, without correcting that statement, that's how it looks to the player base.

    This is completely about communication.

    Here's the thing, I suspect that there was a reason they didn't adjust player's expectations. I can't imagine that a company with the organization and size of square would just have that slip their minds. Whatever the reason they thought it was better to not let us know (I'm sure RMT had something to do with it, that or fear or lots of personal FCs) in advance, it was wrong. They miscalculated. To repeat my earlier statement, I at least hope they've learned something and will do better about this in the future.
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    @Teryaani

    Ok, not to be rude, but you seem like you like to debate so I'm going to answer you quickly and leave you at that debating arena on your own.

    They said that when FC housing first came out, prices lowered since then. People were worried at the time that we'd need about 10 mil for personal housing since that was roughly if not more what a SMALL house cost which at the time was only one floor. Since then the prices have decreased and became much more affordable along with small housing also gaining a basement from the fears of some not having an airship and complains that it was too small because it was the size of what your personal rooming was currently.

    Edit: and I'd think that it was a lesson learned. but never know.
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    Last edited by Lillia; 09-25-2014 at 07:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    @Teryaani

    Ok, not to be rude, but you seem like you like to debate so I'm going to answer you quickly and leave you at that debating arena on your own.

    "While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable." - Naoki Yoshida

    The statement was not that personal houses would be cheaper due to depreciating value, it was that they would be "completely separate from free company" prices, and "far more affordable [than them]".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuga View Post
    "While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable." - Naoki Yoshida

    The statement was not that personal houses would be cheaper due to depreciating value, it was that they would be "completely separate from free company" prices, and "far more affordable [than them]".
    Already replied, don't double post ploxandty.

    Btw, I do personally find it a bit interesting that you're worked over me calling it harvest moon seeing that it is pretty similar. You fix your house up, take care of a chicken and grow plants.
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    Last edited by Lillia; 09-25-2014 at 07:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    @Teryaani

    Ok, not to be rude, but you seem like you like to debate so I'm going to answer you quickly and leave you at that debating arena on your own.

    They said that when FC housing first came out, prices lowered since then. People were worried at the time that we'd need about 10 mil for personal housing since that was roughly if not more what a SMALL house cost which at the time was only one floor. Since then the prices have decreased and became much more affordable along with small housing also gaining a basement from the fears of some not having an airship and complains that it was too small because it was the size of what your personal rooming was currently.
    Yes, but that still is FC housing. You're arguing that the personal housing prices are lower because the FC prices are lower. That's not what's being discussed. What's being discussed is that the personal housing was going to cost less than the FC housing, regardless of how the FC housing market did.



    You're saying FC (old) > FC (new). Nobody is debating that.

    Yoshi stated that FC < P

    What we got was FC = P.

    Also that the wards would be separate entirely. Which has nothing to do with the price. If you're wondering why that's a big deal, it's because FCs in busy servers are already having a hard time getting housing. With this change it gets even harder on them.
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