Latest comment from Yoshida regarding Housing + Inventory space issue

[Gextiv]

I propose a solution: Free To Play.

I believe a Free To play Final Fantasy 14 could open up housing to more players. That way, some of us would not have to treat this game as a second job to make gil for a personal house.

[Mugiawara]

I propose a solution: Free To Play.

I believe a Free To play Final Fantasy 14 could open up housing to more players. That way, some of us would not have to treat this game as a second job to make gil for a personal house.

LOL right?
But they'll just do this: They'd just charge you like $50 for a house, special things will be on the housing tab on the Cash Shop.
So it's a lose - lose situation no matter what you do...It'll always be a win for SE.

[Roris]

Remember the original 2.0 screenshots up to Gamescom 2012 that had the old battle system displayed? Remember the comments since 1.x about Crystal Tower being released at launch? FC summoning still not added, still no word on Golden Saucer when it was estimated by them to be added around 2.3-2.4. It's not like it's the first time these "misinterpretations" and last minute changes have occurred and certainly not the first time it's happened to housing either, what with the comment about how the cheapest FC housing option would cost "about 3 times what a new player can get by leveling from 1 to 50 through the story".

The trust was lost and not really regained a long time ago.

[dragorian]

why make housing 4-56 million to make it harder for rmt ah right heck no it do not if any thing it does is to promote it and to be honest I used to like xiv even when it was crap bk in 2010 and now this game is becoming more for little kids the end game is not there have to get in a df to spend hours looking for a group who can clear the easiest content only to get hooked up with a group who want to do their own thing and not work together and pf is as bad you spend hours waiting for ppl to show but only to leave when it takes too long so I decided to give wow a try and it is better than xiv is now with xiv I feel like I am playing sims to a degree and I hate those games this game used to be enjoyable and before I get to go bk to wow ppl yada yada I used to hate wow that's what brought me to xiv but now I am leaning more towards more towards it I would play ffxi but one still needs help to clear old content like void watch ect and no one does that crap anymore so it is not fun to me and I have several 90/99's so I am not inclined to continue playing any more I understand giving players what they want but just to cave to players 5-14 and screw the rest of the mature ones with meaningful content and for ppl who claim ffxiv is making it more like wow well if they did they have a long way to go or doing a relly bad job at it and also on the blizzard forums they to have problem where when you log on but only to be logged out to relog in again and they don't have the stupid character cap on typing may be they do how ever I never got that far yet

[Lillia]

@Dragorian;

What I posted was OLD housing prices in comparison to what is now a lot cheaper for every group.

New Housing Prices

Fifth-class Plot Fourth-class Plot Third-class Plot Second-class Plot First-class Plot

Small 4,000,000 4,250,000 4,500,000 4,750,000 5,000,000
Medium 30,000,000 31,875,000 33,750,000 35,625,000 37,500,000
Large 70,000,000 74,375,000 78,750,000 83,125,000 87,500,000
Aegis / Bahamut / Balmung / Behemoth / Cactuar / Carbuncle / Chocobo / Diabolos / Durandal / Excalibur / Fenrir / Garuda / Gilgamesh / Gungnir / Hyperion / Ifrit / Leviathan / Mandragora / Masamune / Midgardsormr / Odin / Ragnarok / Ramuh / Ridill / Sargatanas / Shiva / Siren / Tiamat / Titan / Tonberry / Ultros

Fifth-class Plot Fourth-class Plot Third-class Plot Second-class Plot First-class Plot

Small 3,200,000 3,400,000 3,600,000 3,800,000 4,000,000
Medium 24,000,000 25,500,000 27,000,000 28,500,000 30,000,000
Large 56,000,000 59,500,000 63,000,000 66,500,000 70,000,000
Adamantoise / Alexander / Anima / Atomos / Cerberus / Coeurl / Exodus / Faerie / Goblin / Hades / Ixion / Kujata / Lamia / Malboro / Moogle / Pandaemonium / Phoenix / Typhon / Ultima / Valefor


Fifth-class Plot Fourth-class Plot Third-class Plot Second-class Plot First-class Plot

Small 2,000,000 2,125,000 2,250,000 2,375,000 2,500,000
Medium 15,000,000 15,937,500 16,875,000 17,812,500 18,750,000
Large 35,000,000 37,187,500 39,375,000 41,562,500 43,750,000
Asura / Belias / Brynhildr / Famfrit / Jenova / Lich / Mateus / Shinryu / Unicorn / Yojimbo / Zalera / Zeromus / Zodiark

Mind you, even with these prices not being seemingly different... they would never reach this low with the old prices due to the cap limit of how low they were able to fall and now they will be half of this in october.

[MageBlack]

@ Teryaani and Lillia

Thank you for clarifying for me. The reason for the price being the sticking point for forum posters is not necessarily the cost but the communication. I think something the dev team could take from this is to not say anything about future development until it is released. One thing was mentioned almost a year ago and nothing since.

A year is a long time for things to change. Radio silence on the matter (and many other things that are still in the dark, like Golden saucer and FC summoning) can be both a blessing and a curse. I mean, if there is no news then we cant "misinterpret" anything. That is not the ideal takeaway but something that could solve future issues nonetheless.

i could ramble about it ad nauseum but I'm sure I would bring nothing new to the discussion and even less to making any significant change. At this point I have pretty much resigned myself to slowly building up a fortune for a house while I wait to see just how much more space they add in 2.4. if the new wards fill up as fast as they always do, I wont even bother. which is a shame. I really wanted a house... at least I have my inn room.

[Teryaani]

I think something the dev team could take from this is to not say anything about future development until it is released.

A year is a long time for things to change. Radio silence on the matter (and many other things that are still in the dark, like Golden saucer and FC summoning) can be both a blessing and a curse. I mean, if there is no news then we cant "misinterpret" anything. That is not the ideal takeaway but something that could solve future issues nonetheless.

I think you're right. As much as people want details early, if the feature is still in flux and nothing is finalized, the best bet is to tell us to "stay tuned". Then if people get disappointed, it's not because something was put forward by SE, it's because they speculated and had it not turn out how they wished for it.

At this point I have pretty much resigned myself to slowly building up a fortune for a house while I wait to see just how much more space they add in 2.4. if the new wards fill up as fast as they always do, I wont even bother. which is a shame. I really wanted a house... at least I have my inn room.

Good luck with it. Your server is one of the harder ones to get a small house on. Hopefully the doubling of the wards will give you a chance.

[Lillia]

I think you're right. As much as people want details early, if the feature is still in flux and nothing is finalized, the best bet is to tell us to "stay tuned". Then if people get disappointed, it's not because something was put forward by SE, it's because they speculated and had it not turn out how they wished for it.



Good luck with it. Your server is one of the harder ones to get a small house on. Hopefully the doubling of the wards will give you a chance.

Well with luck, by the time new patch is in... if SE waits a little then it'll be 2mil for highest priced servers.

[Kio]

Well with luck, by the time new patch is in... if SE waits a little then it'll be 2mil for highest priced servers.

Unfortunately, whenever they add new wards, the pricing is reset to the highest.

Nothing is stopping anyone from owning multiple houses, actually I am pretty sure I recall being told someone recently bought about 10 houses to themselves on one server.

This really shouldn't be allowed, and it's just one of the things I feel about the entire system that wasn't well thought out. Even with the addition of 16 new wards, if the game were to remain popular there's still no guarantee that many players down the pipelines will ever get to own a house. And most certainly will never get to own the house on the particular plot that they liked. If someone's dream plot is say, the medium house 11 in Lavender Beds and all you can afford now is a small, anyone whom thinks that house will still be around a year from now when you can finally afford it is dreaming. And that shouldn't be the case. The explanation for the price was to reward the effort, but it only rewards those whom are rich right now at this exact moment. No amount of effort will help those behind us unless they're able to keep adding tens of wards every few months. In the meanwhile I know of many people whom are buying several small plots for themselves to have access to multiple gardens, and for the purpose of resale at a higher price to players whom weren't able to be online when the patch went up. If the server structure exists in such a way that the number of houses must be so limited, it just baffles me that they didn't put in any measures to prevent that type of thing. Unless SE just doesn't see an issue with it I guess.

[MageBlack]

Good luck with it. Your server is one of the harder ones to get a small house on. Hopefully the doubling of the wards will give you a chance.

Ya, Balmung is pretty busy and almost always under new character restrictions. I don't have high hopes any more for getting a house, I'm not very hardcore, Most I have ever had at one time was almost 700k. I'm casual in my approach to the game but hardcore in my dedication to play it. My best bet will be like the tortoise and the hare, let the hardcores go nuts when its all expensive while i plug away at it, then when those people have all departed or lost interest, i will have their sloppy seconds.

I do have a few other questions about the personal housing VS FC housing. If it is set up like FC housing is, do all the same rule apply? If i don't enter my residence for 35 days do i forefit the land? That would be another reason not to bother with a personal house. Do you get any kind of bonuses to your character, like the extra exp from the FC? Whats to stop some rich jerk from buying up all the small plots on a ward just to resell them at a higher price?

Either way, I won't be getting a house when the new wards drop, but i'm ok with that, the money does not bother me in the slightest, it is attainable even if it is a long goal for me to attain. I will pray every night in my cardboard box shanty that the twelve will bless me with a plot of land once I have the money.

May the twelve be with you all!