Relic weapons situation post expansion

[Felis]

neither choice is casual friendly.

many people only have 2 hours (or less) to play games per day and why should they spend their time to play boring content like Atma/Animus/Novus/Nexus/whatever? especially if they end up making no progress at all after 2 hours?

Coil weapon - for raid friends
Relict weapon - for grind friends
Token weapon - for casuals with not much time

And whoever is on the Anima tier or a later tier and don't have any progress on their current relict quest (and be it like having a new alexandrite) do something wrong. Boring content or not boring content (if you would do the content even without the quest "forcing" you) is subjective.

[Elven]

They want to lock you in with the latest quest you have to play the character you have the relic on. With the other quests I could use my sch or tank just for quick daily cues but now I have to use my bard for dailies and I have to sit on my hands to get in.

[Felis]

They want to lock you in with the latest quest you have to play the character you have the relic on. With the other Novus quests I could use my sch or tank just for quick daily cues but now I have to use my bard for dailies and I have to sit on my hands to get in.

I fixed it a bit.
Even for the Animus quests you can only do the books with the relict you want to upgrade.

[melflomil]

I just want Atma to become more obtainable and I'll do another one. I just find that one a pain because of the drop rate. The other stages I can do when ever

[Doki]

Should be like 11... introduce mythic weapons that exist side by side with relics, but perhaps with a higher starting ilvl. Honestly, nothing in the relic grind so far has been that difficult really.

[Yukiko]

2.4 we will get new tomestones... obviously how this contnues further!

[Maero]

Atma grind was just horrible, 3+ months for all 12 atma for me. And while i do have 2 animus weapons, the way the Novus on my Bard is costing me i will just get the one Novus.
Not too mention some fates for bookshave had spawn times of like 7 hrs each
Obviously Novus would be geared for the final coil to hit in 2.4 but up until now the Animus or Novus has no been needed, people have been clearing T9 without those weapons.
Soldiery weapons for a few classes are actually very good and waaaay less of a grind

[Elurra]

I think there will be new relic weapon designs in the expansion. Call it Relic 2.

How will we obtain them? It could be a continuation of the current Relic quest line where you turn in your current Relic for the new Relic 2 (with the ability to get the old relic look for glamour purposes, hopefully, for those that want that). If it's like that, Relic weapons could become a status symbol showing time and effort put into the game while also remaining relevant for end game usage.

It could also be a completely new quest line to obtain Relic 2. This is probably more likely. However, it also kind of means the current Relics will become useless. But it would allow newer players to catch up. They could get the easier to obtain soldiery weapons (or whatever is available/needed) and do the Relic 2 quests. Again, having a maxed Relic 1 would be like a status symbol.

So yeah, eventually the Relic Zodiac (or whatever the final form is called) will probably just be something to show off to your friends. And we'll be going through a similar process all over again to obtain and upgrade a new Relic weapon.

[Khalette]

Does it really make sense to forever lock the relic behind this massive grind (Which is obviously targeted at current level 50s who have been playing at least since Atma was implemented)?

Putting all the effort in for these weapons makes sense now because as of right now they are literally pushing at the boundaries of what we have access to in other content, but far down the line when things like Novus and Nexus are obsolete what will be the motivation to even bother with these steps for newer players? Not sure if SE has ever mentioned their plans in regards to this.

I'm a very casual player that had issues at launch and didn't really play until June of 2014 because of it. I painfully did the atma grind, and I understand your frustration.

However, I disagree that a new player shouldn't have to do the older content out there just because they are a new player. EQ2 had a similar system (however, the prismatic weapon was by far the best weapon out there without comparables). I enjoyed playing catch up in that game as well.

I very much enjoy the current system, even if I feel like I'm always playing catch up.

[Fated]

Relic will either be done when the 2.0 line ends or there will be some ridiculously easy method to bring the relic up to the maximum 2.0 level when the first expansion is released.