Relic weapons situation post expansion

[ChriZirhC]

I just wish they ease the grind a bit and not make the relic quest not too scattered all over the place. people will want to get relics for alt classes as well too.

regarding atma: I never had an issue with completing that but seeing that its only a visual upgrade and no stat increase whatsoever, they should just remove the rng and just let people complete it by doign 1 fate in each mentioned area. . simple questline for a simple "upgrade".

[Amused]

Why do they have to make it easier? Doesn't that go against the entire concept of a relic weapon in the first place? You don't have to use a relic. There are plenty of alternative weapons to choose from.

Besides, the increased tome rates already serve to make it easier.

[Prototype909]

Why do they have to make it easier? Doesn't that go against the entire concept of a relic weapon in the first place? You don't have to use a relic. There are plenty of alternative weapons to choose from.

Expecting 3.0 era players to have to go through the same grind that players currently doing all this had to go through is insane, especially when shortcuts already exist - after long enough they should exist for the older parts of the relic too so long as the 3.0 equivalents remain similar to what exists now. The idea isn't to make it easier, but rather to allow new players a method by which to catch-up. Otherwise you're effectively going to lock them behind the grind.

[Amused]

Expecting 3.0 era players to have to go through the same grind that players currently doing all this had to go through is insane, especially when shortcuts already exist - after long enough they should exist for the older parts of the relic too so long as the 3.0 equivalents remain similar to what exists now. The idea isn't to make it easier, but rather to allow new players a method by which to catch-up. Otherwise you're effectively going to lock them behind the grind.

Why do they need to be able to catch up right away? It's not like it's impossible for them to build up their relic. I don't see why being a new player entitles them to have quick access to what is supposed to be a legendary weapon. New players don't need relic weapons. Nobody actually needs relic weapons. There are plenty of alternative weapons in the game at this point.

[Ooshima]

Why do they need to be able to catch up right away? It's not like it's impossible for them to build up their relic. I don't see why being a new player entitles them to have quick access to what is supposed to be a legendary weapon. New players don't need relic weapons. Nobody actually needs relic weapons. There are plenty of alternative weapons in the game at this point.

3.0 is a whole new expansion, with totally new contents and progression awaiting for legacy (which is us, who played ARR/2.0) and new players alike.

I see your join date is 2011 and your post is totally amusing. Did you not notice the difference between A Relic Reborn in 1.22 vs 2.0? Players not needed Relic weapon? In patch 2.0 at launch, Relic is the ONLY weapon to go for. You are talking too much about existing options in ARR's time frame which will no longer be relevant in 3.0 contents.

Expect yourself that the final form of the relic weapon will be your entry weapon into 3.0's end game raid.

[Amused]

3.0 is a whole new expansion, with totally new contents and progression awaiting for legacy (which is us, who played ARR/2.0) and new players alike.

I see your join date is 2011 and your post is totally amusing. Did you not notice the difference between A Relic Reborn in 1.22 vs 2.0? Players not needed Relic weapon? In patch 2.0 at launch, Relic is the ONLY weapon to go for. You are talking too much about existing options in ARR's time frame which will no longer be relevant in 3.0 contents.

Expect yourself that the final form of the relic weapon will be your entry weapon into 3.0's end game raid.

There's a huge difference between going from the 1.X version to the 2.X version, because they're nearly entirely different games. An expansion will not be an entirely different game. Please give me a reason why newer players deserve a free pass to a highly powered relic weapon when items of equivalent item level are also available?

[Karen_Cerfrumos]

3.0 is a whole new expansion, with totally new contents and progression awaiting for legacy (which is us, who played ARR/2.0) and new players alike.

I see your join date is 2011 and your post is totally amusing. Did you not notice the difference between A Relic Reborn in 1.22 vs 2.0? Players not needed Relic weapon? In patch 2.0 at launch, Relic is the ONLY weapon to go for. You are talking too much about existing options in ARR's time frame which will no longer be relevant in 3.0 contents.

Expect yourself that the final form of the relic weapon will be your entry weapon into 3.0's end game raid.

It's probably unfair to compare the jump from 1.x to 2.0 to the transition from 2.x to 3.0, about which we don't know anything yet. So far with 2.x series they've shown they're gonna offer alternatives at all times. A lengthy, tedious questline should not be a pass into the next tier of raiding, because well... Look how that worked out for Wildstar.

[Eggnook24]

Just have ATMA drops without wielding a zenith. Lots of alts to level through fates.

[16bitBounty]

My advice with regards to relic weapons is, get the one that you like the most and use it for glamours for the easier to obtain weapons that come with dungeons and fights. Animus Sphairai for me will be used to cover up unweathered gear for now.

[polyhedral]

nerf atma ffs.

It does nothing but bother people. There is no "upgrade" to the item afterwards besides the next grindfest.