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    Armchair dev's. Gotta love'm.
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    I like the game overall but a lot of things have disappointed me with their implementation.
    If they wanted housing to be goal people would need to work towards that should have been clear from the beginning. If server issues prevent them from separating personal and FC housing or having enough plots for everyone at this time we should have been told so before the content was launched.
    I don't remember which thread it was but I saw a comparison between the number of personal housing plots available and the number of ex primal mounts collected and how the former was promoted a great deal in spite of being about as rare as the latter. I feel like so much disappointment could have been avoided if housing hadn't been implied to be accessible for everyone only to be implemented in such a way that only a small few will be able to enjoy it.

    On the subject of Atmas the existence of worse grinds in other games doesn't make it ok for this grind to exist. Games should be fun, if an element isn't fun it needs to be reworked. I'm optimistic from the Novus and Nexus steps that SE has learned that FATEs should be one option of many and not a mandatory component of certain content.

    I'm also of the opinion that many vanity items are too difficult to obtain.
    I don't have a problem with everyone being able to dye their AF or collect swimsuits, to me these are things which should be accessible and not status symbols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Armchair dev's. Gotta love'm.
    If they are playing, they got no time to add features. If they are adding features, they are obviously not playing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    If they are playing, they got no time to add features. If they are adding features, they are obviously not playing it!
    Are you trying to suggest they should be playing instead of developing? That incredibly silly and short sighted. If they weren't releasing content at the pace they have the game would have petered out by now due to lack of content. This is a simple fact no one here seems to want to acknowledge. I'm sure everyone here would have loved to see this go the star wars route and end up chopped up in a terrible free to play setup like it has.

    Not to you but as a response to this thread in general I add this. Not everyone agrees with what is said here especially coming from people who have no idea what developing a game is like, what software development is like, or any of the intricacies in those tasks. It's easy to sit here and go "god they should have just done this" when you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm a software developer and you'd be surprised how often I've heard the phrase "why don't you just..." when a person requests a feature. Those people only make such simplistic statements because they have no idea what it takes to do what they're asking for or what it will take to accomplish. Just like many people in this thread. Armchair devs. Suggesting ideas is one thing, but to sit around acting like everything should be obvious the first time or that the changes suggested are easy or quick to implement is showing just how little people here understand what they are talking about at all. Especially consider the tone of many responses here. So disrespectful.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 09-23-2014 at 08:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Reality

    It's too bad that they'll never get it either. Ignorance is bliss, as they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    It's too bad that they'll never get it either. Ignorance is bliss, as they say.
    You can know the cost of something and still ask for it. Certainly not knowing what you're asking for makes a harder argument on why you think it should be done- but their comment doesn't exclude asking. And it is not safe for them to assume that everyone here is ignorant, nor you.. Most of us have jobs in order to pay for the game, you'll never know what profession/schooling and hobbies you've ran into until you've asked.

    Although I'm not quite sure which part Tiggy is referring to people not knowing what they are asking- this thread is pretty encompassing so.. a lot of stuff sitting on the table lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    You can know the cost of something and still ask for it. Certainly not knowing what you're asking for makes a harder argument on why you think it should be done- but their comment doesn't exclude asking. And it is not safe for them to assume that everyone here is ignorant, nor you.. Most of us have jobs in order to pay for the game, you'll never know what profession/schooling and hobbies you've ran into until you've asked.

    Although I'm not quite sure which part Tiggy is referring to people not knowing what they are asking- this thread is pretty encompassing so.. a lot of stuff sitting on the table lol.
    I believe he meant they don't know what it takes development wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drivendawn View Post
    I believe he meant they don't know what it takes development wise.
    Yeah I got that, but I meant on what particularly - people could have an idea and it isn't safe to assume they don't. "Well clearly you don't because what you want costs a lot" "I know it does, I still am asking for it because this feels substandard" may be a legitimate back and forth between two knowledgeable people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    You can know the cost of something and still ask for it. Certainly not knowing what you're asking for makes a harder argument on why you think it should be done- but their comment doesn't exclude asking. And it is not safe for them to assume that everyone here is ignorant, nor you.. Most of us have jobs in order to pay for the game, you'll never know what profession and hobbies you've ran into until you've asked.
    That's just it though, many people don't know the difficulty. Which is why they are frustrated when it isn't how they want it. Those who do know, and there's probably many, know why some things are unfeasible while some are down right ludicrous. Then there are things we probably couldn't have known (like how instance housing wouldn't have been able to be saved) outside the scope of what is possible.

    Although I'm not quite sure which part Tiggy is referring to people not knowing what they are asking- this thread is pretty encompassing so.. a lot of stuff sitting on the table lol.
    There are many things that could work, then some things that are multitude of work just to get done for a minor upgrade or the like. It won't stop people from asking, or even coming up with some cool suggestions but I don't believe that all the people should believe their suggestion is easy. Usually because it isn't easy. Might even be down right impossible without massive uprooting and I'm sure SE doesn't want to do that a second time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Snip.
    I so agree with you. It's very annoying to see the "You should have done this!" yet never bothered to actually post what they would like to see before hand.
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