They really want this game to be simple...

[subteraneanbird]

A Realm Reborn has an entirely different engine and internal workings than 1.0. As much as you may hate to admit it so you can make absurdist claims to the contrary, this game here is in fact only a year old.

[Adamantium]

What do you mean "Become Big"? This game already IS Big. Simply put, as of Patch 2.2 this game had over 2 million registered users and an average of 500,000 daily users. That is a staggering number. Granted World of Warcraft beats this figure by about 4.8 million subscribers, but this game still has one of the largest customer bases for a subscription based game in the world.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but "registered users" doesn't mean they're currently subscribed, but how many accounts have been made. You're comparing the total amount of accounts that have been created on FF14 to the current amount of people subscribed to WoW. If Blizzard released their amount of registered users, we'd all laugh at how small FF14's is.

Hitting 2 million accounts created in today's market isn't anything special. Even Guild Wars 2 touted "2 million copies sold!" within a couple months of release.

[Leonus]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but "registered users" doesn't mean they're currently subscribed, but how many accounts have been made. You're comparing the total amount of accounts that have been created on FF14 to the current amount of people subscribed to WoW. If Blizzard released their amount of registered users, we'd all laugh at how small FF14's is.

Hitting 2 million accounts created in today's market isn't anything special. Even Guild Wars 2 touted "2 million copies sold!" within a couple months of release.

We'd also laugh at how many accounts wow has counted that aren't even active currently.

[Tharian]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but "registered users" doesn't mean they're currently subscribed, but how many accounts have been made. You're comparing the total amount of accounts that have been created on FF14 to the current amount of people subscribed to WoW. If Blizzard released their amount of registered users, we'd all laugh at how small FF14's is.

Hitting 2 million accounts created in today's market isn't anything special. Even Guild Wars 2 touted "2 million copies sold!" within a couple months of release.

A registered user is a person who is in fact currently subscribed. So yes, 2 million registered users does in fact refer to 2 million currently subscribed people. If they were talking about the number of overall accounts created whether they were currently registered or whether they were inactive at the current time they would have to use the phrase "accounts" instead of "registered users."

[Adamantium]

Snip for space.

Fair enough. My confusion stems from these articles implying that a registered account doesn't mean an actively subscribing account, and also not having been able to find any official statement from SquareEnix on how many subscribers the game has.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/04...registrations/
http://www.joystiq.com/2014/04/16/fi...on-registratio

Edit: Additional GameFAQs topic. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/68760696

[Rex]

Thread got too long, just going to keep the tl;dr


TL;DR Game could use more individual skill, don't sacrifice creativity in the name of balance, when no matter what you do, you'll have to re-balance things anyways. Also people they don't have a demographic in mind, they just want people to play and enjoy, there are interviews where they say this. Party based encounters being the only difficult content is not enough IMHO.

If you sift through some posts from Yoshi-P, you'll find that he wants the game to be "simple at first" and then as time goes on he'll introduce more "complex" content.

[Tharian]

Fair enough. My confusion stems from these articles implying that a registered account doesn't mean an actively subscribing account, and also not having been able to find any official statement from SquareEnix on how many subscribers the game has.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/04...registrations/
http://www.joystiq.com/2014/04/16/fi...on-registratio

Edit: Additional GameFAQs topic. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/68760696

Okay, fair enough. I had not read those articles. Still, 500,000 daily log ins is nothing to cry home about.

[Jinrya-Geki]

By your logic, every Star Ocean game would be the same game which is obviously not the case. Dyne here is correct, for all intents and purpose, Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn is a different game than Final Fantasy XIV due to the tremendous amount of change it got.

I think of it more as FFX and then Playing FFX-HD, but in reverse.

[FoxyAreku]

Thread got too long, just going to keep the tl;dr


TL;DR Game could use more individual skill, don't sacrifice creativity in the name of balance, when no matter what you do, you'll have to re-balance things anyways. Also people they don't have a demographic in mind, they just want people to play and enjoy, there are interviews where they say this. Party based encounters being the only difficult content is not enough IMHO.

Uh. Is there any MMO that doesn't focus it's difficult content on group things? I've never seen one, it's kind of the point of an MMO to play with other people.

[Dwill]

I think of it more as FFX and then Playing FFX-HD, but in reverse.

The difference between FFX and FFX-HD was purely a new coat of paint. The difference between A Realm Reborn and 1.xx is much more than that.