So why didn't Yoshida just go the FFXI route with housing...

[Tupsi]

Yea don't waste your breath, some people do not understand that what they think was did "right" in one game is only their own personal opinion. coming from a long time of FFXI if they did built anything off the wrong decisions 11 made this game would have already been dead.

Yep - Giving everyone their own personal space from the get go that they can modify and gain storage space with then expanding it through the housing feature would have killed the game.

It definitely would kill the game to build off what XI did right. Since you know, it totally killed ARR to build off of WoW and GW2's systems.

[Gerolan]

Tbh at no point would I believe it's an oversight considering they saw the impact the initial FC rush had.
Poor planning bordering on incompetent
Now not only have they locked the average player out but also any newly formed FC
XI system was a billion times better than this

[Felis]

It would have been better if the devs created a own type of wards for personal housing.
FC housing wards like we have now + personal housing wards with much more S houses, some M houses and no L house (they are too big for a single character).
There would be then more places for personal houses, and because personal plots are separated from FC plots there could be different prices.

[Velhart]

Yea don't waste your breath, some people do not understand that what they think was did "right" in one game is only their own personal opinion. coming from a long time of FFXI if they did built anything off the wrong decisions 11 made this game would have already been dead.

FFXI did a lot of things right and I think could make it's way to FFXIV in it's own form. It is just that a lot of people ask for things that were bad aspects of the game.

Personal housing as it is right now is definitely one of the laziest things I had ever seen the developers do. It took this many months to open two extra wards and slightly change the coding that it takes just a single player to buy the house? It is just classic SE being SE as usual to me.

It definitely would kill the game to build off what XI did right. Since you know, it totally killed ARR to build off of WoW and GW2's systems.

[Mishini_Dracoto]

TBH, I don't recall anyone asking for open world player housing. Maybe FC housing? Still can't think of any posts though, off the top of my head.

I saw this post, I want Open World Housing. I was hoping/expecting that Personal Housing would be separated from FC Housing and the cost difference would be more skewed, but if that were the case then I don't think people would continue buying FC housing.

Really, I guess the only real reason I want personal Housing is for Gardening. (I was also hoping it would be implemented separately, so that they could make logging out/in possible, such as a Mog House from FFXI or an Inn room from the towns). So My FC has a house, and I'll have to be fine with that until I'm rich and can afford my own personal mansion.

[Kayo]

I think it would be a better idea. Not perfect but better than how it is now.

This. I would take even the FFXI housing over this. What we're getting couldve been done months ago with the original FC housing patch. Hell, they couldve had a phased instance on the current plots as well, but they arent are they? The only difference is that you can now buy it yourself. Seriously, wtf were we waiting for all this time? For them to say ... "ok NOW you can buy one of the houses for yourself."

[odintius]

I don't mind the grand company housing for visuals purposes to show off your Free companys exploits that a great foundation for housing, but for personel housing using the ffxi type system were you zone into your own area and customize/upgrade your own house/plot and also not being tied to your free company house. Also honestly now that personel housing is out I think the room in your free company and the Inns in the towns should be removed and use those resources into peoples personnel housing!

[Volcano]

FFXI did a lot of things right and I think could make it's way to FFXIV in it's own form. It is just that a lot of people ask for things that were bad aspects of the game.

Personal housing as it is right now is definitely one of the laziest things I had ever seen the developers do. It took this many months to open two extra wards and slightly change the coding that it takes just a single player to buy the house? It is just classic SE being SE as usual to me.

See what i mean? cause yea, this game is pretty dead and everything, right?

In anycase i do wonder what FFXI did that was so "right" that could be put in this game something minor like housing is hardly a reason.

[Mrfox0707]

I was thinking they need to do the same thing with personal housing. Have a zone line in each city once it's crossed it would take you to your house. But I would like to still have an outside with a yard and such. Plus their would have to be some way to let people on our friend's list into your house. So you can show it off.

[Velhart]

See what i mean? cause yea, this game is pretty dead and everything, right?

In anycase i do wonder what FFXI did that was so "right" that could be put in this game something minor like housing is hardly a reason.

People just have this mind set that if you use WoW's structure, then you are inevitably doomed. Funny thing is, most poor decisions from MMO developers in their games which lead to people leaving haven't been because it is a "WoW clone".

I love it when someone actually brings a good idea from FFXI in here. Its a type of thread that is like finding a needle in a haystack. I wouldn't complain if developers before creating the game built the foundation to work like it, but they didn't, so I just always ask myself what works in this game without trying to drastically alter how the game works.

Its funny I say this, because I have been playing FFXI recently in anticipation for 2.4.