Goodbye cleric stance.. you will be sorely missed

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What a lovely generalization you have there. Not every whm runs into a fight spamming holy, in all honesty..I rarely see it Also, why shouldn't a healer engage in a 1 vs 1? It's pvp, the healer should be able to defend itself, not just "Oh my god, an enemy! I'm going to run away!" Out of all the games I have played. This is the only one where I've seen this.

Another thing, removing your debuff isn't really an easy thing to do, when the slightest poke will interrupt your casting and don't say the whole swiftcast, surecast thing. Those two can be countered. Let alone, the "crappy" roamer is really someone who is just capturing the posts while people leave it open and he won't just sit there and watch you run off. Last but not least, you fail to mention anything about scholar healing in pvp despite that's the class that took the biggest impact from it.

I count running into a fight spamming Holy with sitting on a node spamming Holy. Or instead of SC'ing Medica II, they SC Holy. Or Blizzard II. Point is, wasting a Swift/Sure for DPS skills is stupid as a WHM/SCH. You're expected to keep the other members of your party alive using the tools available to you; not waste your CD's on damaging skills. That's what those you know, DPS classes are for. Tanks included in FL. Of course, there's exceptions, but none a wanna-be DPS WHM or SCH would want to hear because it's too limiting or boring. God forbid, I know.

No. I don't think a WHM or SCH should sit there and engage in a 1v1 while their team is waiting on them to get back to their node. Or when they're expected to be at mid in 30 seconds. Or when they're party has called out another "inc" and instead of getting there just in the nick of time, they choose to play with some roaming tard from GW2's WvW. Yes, a Healer should be able to defend themselves. This doesn't mean sit there for a minute trying to kill another player. SC Sleep, and go to your designated location. There, you've defended yourself against a would-be attacker.

If you need to cleanse yourself of Heavy, do it. It's that simple. Whether you Sure it or not is up to you. Get it done and Sprint away. If it's a melee interrupting your cleanse, knock them away and cast it. Ranged? SC or Sure Aldo then cast it right after. Problem solved. Granted, against BLM, SCH, and SMN is a little more difficult.

Roamers are different than teams that are running a split to back-cap something. When I say "roamer" I'm specifically talking about the 1v1 extraordinaire. The people who think 1v1 is the epitome of PvP, and feel that all other forms are pointless, and damn working as a team in a game mode designed specifically for team play. You see these types of players sitting at mid, just hoping for a player to show up early. Or skulking around nodes that may or may not need to be capped and chase you all over Frontlines to prove that you're a noob, and they're pro if they kill you somehow.

And what about SCH healing? They're great in PvP. I don't think them losing Cleric Stance does anything to that aspect of their job.

[Lycinder]

Snip.

Kind of going around in circles/ your ignoring the counterclaims to your points.
Problem with Scholars are they are great in pvp thanks to the rotation and adaptability granted by cleric stance, so losing that hits them really really hard, I understand you don't play scholar in pvp but trust me its a real game changer this update.
The sheer amount of time it take to run away from an encounter from a dps since they can just put heavy back on you when you mount back up (If you sprint they sprint, a good dps can sprint and time a tp recovery quite well from my experience in 1 v 1, tricky little things I know) I actually only ever engaged in 1 v 1 to scare off the guy bothering me, I rarely got a kill but just running away is slower than scaring them off with dps mixed with healing rotation (If it was a scholar bets were generally off.)

A lot of your "Problem fixed" does not help a scholar in any way.

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Thanks for the info bud