Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

[Elim]

Not at all. when I say I think someone is lying is is related to how ridiculous their claim is. The more ridiculous the more likely it is a lie. There is no way anyone who leveled to 50 multiple times on DoW/DoM classes has never come across a single rude or angry veteran player and only come across rude or angry new players aka players on their first class on their first character unless they have never ran dungeons with any non-new players on all those multiple 1-50 classes or the only ones they ran dungeons with is their friends.

Just so ya know, to try to show you how wrong your assumption that everyones experience has to be the same as yours is flawed, a fair amount of people got all level 50's without touching a dungeon outside their story quest. Dungeons weren't cool when the game came out since FATE grinding gave a lot more experience. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the long time vets experiences are a lot different than yours.

[Snugglebutt]

Just so ya know, to try to show you how wrong your assumption that everyones experience has to be the same as yours is flawed, a fair amount of people got all level 50's without touching a dungeon outside their story quest. Dungeons weren't cool when the game came out since FATE grinding gave a lot more experience. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the long time vets experiences are a lot different than yours.

It does not make much difference, though I gave the example of leveling 1-50...that was my example but your claim is you have never met a angry or rude veteran player in dungeons, only rude or angry new players. The fact by saying only ever is the newbies in dungeons you have run it exceeds just the leveling 1-50 range into the post-storyline, post-level 50 gear, seals, materials, tomes and vanity item grinds/dungeon runs. Your claim extends into that realm too which makes it even more likely a lie.

[Elim]

It does not make much difference, though I gave the example of leveling 1-50...your claim is you have never met a angry or rude veteran player in dungeons, only rude or angry new players. The fact by saying only ever is the newbies in dungeons you have run it exceeds just the leveling 1-50 range into the post storyline, post-level 50 gear, seals, materials, tomes and vanity item grinds/dungeon runs. Your claim extends into that realm too which makes it even more likely a lie.

I said in low level dungeons. You seem to keep forgetting that this is what the conversation is about.

Show me where I said that I only experience rude newbies in lv 50 dungeons as well. Because I didn't. Anywhere. I may have vaguely said "dungeons" without adding "low level" to it, following my original post, but I thought you had the ability to follow my line of thought in that regards.

You can't enter a level 50 dungeon until you GET TO level 50. So levelling from 1-50 doesn't imply level 50 dungeons too, just FYI, in case that confused you somehow.

[NyarukoW]

I said in low level dungeons. You seem to keep forgetting that this is what the conversation is about.
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So you want to use weasel word qualifications now? BTW the OP is at level 45, Stone Vigil, Dzemael, Aurum Vale, are not exactly face roll friendly low level Sastasha anymore.

I've seen people rage quit on those. My first crap experience was with a speed runner trying to speed run WP. The healer back then like myself was iLevel45+ or so SCH. Good luck speed running it. Then the tank rage quit on us. Nobody is a newbie at that point, but they all think they can dictate how everyone else is supposed to play. And ny resistance must be because the other newbie (i.e. me and healer) doesn't like advice.

Funny thing was the advice was to get geared. Well what the heck were we in WP for...

[Eye_Gore]

So you want to use weasel word qualifications now? BTW the OP is at level 45, Stone Vigil, Dzemael, Aurum Vale, are not exactly face roll friendly low level Sastasha anymore.

Though there are still the first timers going through those, like me, I'm level 50 but still haven't done any of these, except the Vigil.

[ExKage]

Though there are still the first timers going through those, like me, I'm level 50 but still haven't done any of these, except the Vigil.

The reason for that is because the other two are not required by the main story but are done through the relic quests via requirement of grand company etc.

I do feel bad but I understand the frustration. While leveling my SCH, I had queued in progress right before the first boss in Aurum Vale. The pulls were slow. The paladin was a level 50 (level synced to level 49, had gallant surcoat, etc) most likely trying to get his relic. At coincounter he didn't say anything. He got hit by 90% of the swipes and the only got out of 2 swings. We asked him to shield bash the glower and also avoid turning the boss around by running really far behind the boss so coincounter would turn around and cleave both him and a DRG. He kept getting hit by all of them even though after the first and second wipe we explained exactly all the mechanics and how to deal with them. He also ran in twice before I could put up protect and succor the group before his pull. The 4th wipe we had, there was a vote abandon.

[Eye_Gore]

The reason for that is because the other two are not required by the main story but are done through the relic quests via requirement of grand company etc.

Yeah I have the Darkhold and Castum Meridianum still up on my screen to do, but just can't commit to the time to do them. Then still have to do The Praetorium to finish out the main quest.

[Elim]

So you want to use weasel word qualifications now?

Nah. I want you guys to actually read my posts and reply to what they say, not what you add to them for...flare?...fun?...togetmad? XD

I got to give it to you guys though, it is fun. I'm stuck at a coffee shop for couple more hours. lol