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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliquis View Post
    You stated that it was as if the DEVs made the statement that the class will be involved with something in the plot.
    No I didn't.

    However they have mentioned many times in the past that they would prefer to add things that make sense in the world of XIV. And a Gunblade Dark Knight is pretty much the epitome of something that would make sense at this point. Not saying for sure that's where it's going, but just saying that all the pieces fit. More so than musketeers. More so than a mage character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rysir View Post
    Well chemist started with the dagger and moved on to the gun in tactics, perhaps gladiator/paladin getting stripped of the shank stick may indicate a new class taking them up in the future. Like say chemist comes in and has guns for main hand and daggers for a non damaging off hand and the dagger is used for healing ability "ingredients" and such.
    You got my like simply for your sig....well played sir, well played indeed.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    By the way the idea of a Gunblade class not only supports the current Lightning weapon that we have, but also supports the statement that Yoshida said, that they were working on a costume from a past FF title (in this case it would be Squall or Seifer, who used a Gunblade, probably not Seifer since it's similar to Snow's).

    And the FFVIII tie in also links with Triple Triad which is coming with the Golden Saucer.
    Yes, COSTUME I dont think he means GEAR for your Squall Dark Knight. lol

    However for the sake of agreement, the whole GARLEAN armor and gunblade would be suitable for a new tank class which is something we need. But blehh, anythign to do with Garleans and their armor makes me think of FF gone star wars just like FF12... lol
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    No I didn't.

    However they have mentioned many times in the past that they would prefer to add things that make sense in the world of XIV. And a Gunblade Dark Knight is pretty much the epitome of something that would make sense at this point. Not saying for sure that's where it's going, but just saying that all the pieces fit. More so than musketeers. More so than a mage character.
    lol your too fantasy for final fantasy

    EDIT:
    Oh hey forgot to put this in here. The whole "No I didn't"
    You said:
    I thought the gun class would be Blue Mage until I realized everything that fit the pattern:

    -Gun class (a fact)
    -Not expected (a fact)
    -Already established in plot (hey just threw that in there with bulleted facts to later claim i didnt use it along with them like it was also a fact)
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    Last edited by Aliquis; 09-12-2014 at 03:12 PM.

  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliquis View Post
    Yes, COSTUME I dont think he means GEAR for your Squall Dark Knight.
    Yes, just like how Lighnings outfit doesn't scream "Paladin" to me.
    I said costume for a reason, but you seem to have failed to realize that and put emphasis on it instead.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliquis View Post
    lol your too fantasy for final fantasy
    I'm just giving you a hypothesis with various supporting evidence to it.

    Musketeer is an idea but Yoshida has all but stated that it won't be Musketeer. You aren't even refuting the facts, you're just trying to overpower my opinion with your own.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aliquis View Post
    EDIT:
    Oh hey forgot to put this in here. The whole "I didnt state it like it was fact"
    You said:
    I thought the gun class would be Blue Mage until I realized everything that fit the pattern:

    -Gun class (a fact)
    -Not expected (a fact)
    -Already established in plot (hey just threw that in there with bulleted facts to later claim i didnt use it along with them like it was also a fact)
    And what was that 3rd point followed by?
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    I'm just giving you a hypothesis with various supporting evidence to it.

    Musketeer is an idea but Yoshida has all but stated that it won't be Musketeer. You aren't even refuting the facts, you're just trying to overpower my opinion with your own.


    And what was that 3rd point followed by?
    I believe it was.

    Dark Knights are so awesome, So are gunblade users like Sephir. Oh man what if they combine them? Oh Clearly Yoshida is thinking the same.
    Whilst supporting this with "evidence" and completely ignoring evidence that ENTIRELY avoids Garlean direction in 1.0

    He didn't state it wouldnt be musketeer and said its not what we will expect. I think he means expecting Corsair JOB and not the CLASS as what we wont expect...

    Corsair is the bleeding obvious here.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliquis View Post
    I believe it was.
    "Dark Knights are so awesome, So are gunblade users like Sephir. Oh man what if they combine them? Oh Clearly Yoshida is thinking the same."
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    I thought the gun class would be Blue Mage until I realized everything that fit the pattern:
    -Gun class
    -Not expected
    -Already established in plot
    -Will probably merge together with a Dark Knight job stemming from Nero and his Crystal Tower exploits (Nero = Black, and he's trying to harness the power of the darkness, but he doesn't seem entirely evil, and CT3 will probably be us saving him, and he has a gunblade.)
    -Nero would be the job master probably
    Clearly, we can surmise how much of a value you hold on actual real information, and how much bias you use in your arguments.


    No. He did not state it wouldn't be Musketeer (afaik). He stated it would be something we likely didn't expect, and that would involve Musketeer. As far as Job vs. Class, most questions about such things are asked in a way such as "Can we expect some kind of job to behave like the Musketeer from 1.0?". If you take this and gather the rest of what he says from his other Live Letters, he doesn't rely on specifics to trick the players. For example Rogue is essentially what players would expect as a thief class (without stealing), yet it is simply named "Rogue". He did this to support the in-game lore and not as a trick to the players, and clearly emphasized these points whenever addressing the topic.

    A Musketeer as one of the next Jobs isn't something that's at a 0% chance, but I'd say it's pretty low. The idea of a dual wielding pistol class raises the odds a little bit, deviating from the expected, and there's an existing character with dual pistols (Merlwyb), which is a valid point, but that's where the excitement ends and there isn't anything else to back it up.

    1.0 is over with. Musketeer isn't around, and Arcanist is.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    Clearly, we can surmise how much of a value you hold on actual real information, and how much bias you use in your arguments.


    No. He did not state it wouldn't be Musketeer (afaik). He stated it would be something we likely didn't expect, and that would involve Musketeer. As far as Job vs. Class, most questions about such things are asked in a way such as "Can we expect some kind of job to behave like the Musketeer from 1.0?". If you take this and gather the rest of what he says from his other Live Letters, he doesn't rely on specifics to trick the players. For example Rogue is essentially what players would expect as a thief class (without stealing), yet it is simply named "Rogue". He did this to support the in-game lore and not as a trick to the players, and clearly emphasized these points whenever addressing the topic.

    A Musketeer as one of the next Jobs isn't something that's at a 0% chance, but I'd say it's pretty low. The idea of a dual wielding pistol class raises the odds a little bit, deviating from the expected, and there's an existing character with dual pistols (Merlwyb), which is a valid point, but that's where the excitement ends and there isn't anything else to back it up.

    1.0 is over with. Musketeer isn't around, and Arcanist is.
    Clearly you have no sense of humor and/or are hurting in a lower portion of the body because that was a joke buddy. Biased? I think you are subjective to your own personal tastes. I think you are practicing things people in the psych field call Confirmation Bias and Projection. Have a nice day. =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliquis View Post
    Clearly you have no sense of humor and/or are hurting in a lower portion of the body because that was a joke buddy. Biased? I think you are subjective to your own personal tastes. I think you are practicing things people in the psych field call Confirmation Bias and Projection. Have a nice day. =)
    Maybe I have no sense of humor and/or are hurting in a lower portion of my body because that was a joke, just maybe, but I also have backed up my theory with more sound logic than your own.
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