Requirement for Coil Not needed for Expansion But...

[Seiryuukishi]

Exactly this. The main reason I don't want to continue trying is because of the jerks in the community that keep asking if you've watched videos, know the strat, etc. I'll always say "I've watched videos / read guides, but I don't remember half the strategy." They'll kick me immediately. I'm being hoest, I don't like not being honest.

If I could help you I would however the best I can do is offer advice. In all seriousness/fairness to your situation as well as others situation I say this: Make a PF group listing stating that it is a learning party. Also make it clear you have some minor experience to the point that you reached and someone (preferably the tanks or healers or both) with clear experience (possible multiple clears) would be greatly appreciated to help iron out the proverbial wrinkles. Sometimes honesty will set people off but you are more likely to catch more flak from dishonesty especially in Coil runs.

You may not get a group tomorrow or even this week but what have you got to lose? If you are adverse to that tactic you could, and I say this only as a last resort, use DF for experience. Now it is true that you'll be more likely to NOT get the clear you will however be more likely to run into those that have experience with it. You may very well get vote kicked. But that is a gamble on any instance/raid. Not everyone is a asshat. Sometimes what holds you back is your own concern that it won't go the way you hope or people will be rude (see vote kick/asshats) but is that really any different from real life in general? If you learn better from first hand experience like I do, while it may not be ideal, DF would actually go a long way toward your goal of getting the clear. At the very least you would get a better hands on idea of do's and do not's.

You are the master of how you proceed from here. T5 really isn't that difficult to get the hang of it is just menacing because of the content it is associated with and the amount of mechanics you need to learn. Which for the most part isn't that much if you watch what you are doing. Honestly the toughest thing I had to deal with was timing on dreadknights as a monk. Conflags, twisters, liquid hells, neurolinks, divebombs, etc. are just watch/timing mechanics that come with practice. The more you encounter them the easier it becomes to adapt to them.

[ruskie]

Wait you get to hatches and liquid hells? That's basically a clear. Seriously... It took my team and myself quite a while to get each phase down good and then the transition to twisters.
Now we even have one that got hit by DBs 99% of the time(and he has issues due to lag since bad ISP and as far away as possible from the servers) not getting hit once...

Took us a few months with atleast once per week a 90 min session of training and learning(at times even 4 hours). It helps to get to know the people you are playing with,
how they will react, what can go wrong for each person and so on. Now atleast a couple of us have 5+ clears with the rest getting there as well. And we will be starting on t6 this friday.
Hell we even managed to carry someone at one point(and I do mean they were dead most of the fight).

Unlike the rest I'm not saying it's easy. I'm saying it takes effort, focus, coordination and will to do it.

It took me 4 sessions to clear titan ex... it took me probably a dozen sessions over 2 months to clear garuda ex and it took me one session to clear iffy ex(in DF no less).

Best you can do is start your own LS and invite people that you do stuff in PF that you see can handle themselves and invite them there. That way you will always have a decent pool of people to call upon for help.

[Crimson-Falcon]

Then why not pull a demon wall, like said above? I'll be honest, the dreadknights and snakes are the only reasons why I'm no good with it, as well as the 5x liquid hell. Already tried turn 5 three times, one of which was with a static of someone else's, which failed completely (Twice)

almost took me 2 months to beat t5 1st time and never gave up

and you want to beat it in 3 tries?

[Ilitsa]

See opening post.



Same, especially in open world pvp MMORPGs like WildStar, World of Warcraft, RIFT. I will be transferring to the Mateus World in the meantime, and see if I can't complete it with DF only.

No offense, but I don't think server changing will do anything more than waste your 18 dollars in this case, using DF, you'd get put into the same pit that you'd get put into where you are now, I -just- beat T5 myself, and most my FC is still struggling with it, it's something you just have to bash your head against over and over and over again, don't give up, keep trying, try some more, you will eventually get it

almost took me 2 months to beat t5 1st time and never gave up

and you want to beat it in 3 tries?

That's about how long my FC has been at it now, I only beat it because a friend's group needed a replacement healer so I went along with them to help them clear it out

[lolipuncher]

Not surprised nobody wants to let you join their PF with the attitude you've got.

[abzoluut]

The thing is, I think there are quite a lot of OP-minded people, which of course is sad to say the least. I am more interested in what led to this mindset. It would help SE create endgame content because I have a feeling SE creates content to please 2 groups. We end up having medium-difficult content: too hard for some, too easy for others. I still vouch for two modes.

[Adler]

The only thing I agree with OP is that it's hard to ask others for help, at least it is a pain for me to ask for help. But to say that echo doesn't help and SE need to remove mechanics such as twisters or divebombs is plain dumb. I cleared coil 5 just recently due to big help from echo that makes dreadknight phase super short and practically you just only need to be able to avoid divebombs and twisters now - all dps checks are long gone already in T5.
About "casual players having hard time in endgame content" - I literally am staring mouth open at some of my fc members that beat content like monsters now though even 2 weeks ago they derped at everything they did. People that actually try as best they can to learn at least from their own mistakes - they do beat endgame content and get more skilled and self confident for the next content to come out.

[Fated]

Your expectations are not consistent with reality.

But they DID just release an easy-mode Coil for you, specifically.

- Go to www.youtube.com
- Type into the search bar: "FFXIV Turn 5 kill BLM perspective w/cutscenes"
- Get an old mouse/keyboard or controller and make sure that they are disconnected from your computer or playstation
- Hit "Play" and "Full-screen"
- Go ahead and press the buttons as you normally would, the game will correct your errors for you.

Can you please design the next MMORPG? I like your vision of content.

[Jaykos]

lol yes you will need to down t5 before you can walk into a store to buy the expansion.

I thought everyone knew that.

[Fated]

They check your achievement at the door.