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    I will never understand the need for a tank to have a gun anything, the armoury system on this game means each weapon can be used for one class, so why waste a great DPS weapon on a tank, it doesn't make sense. A gun/ Gunblade is a weapon that a DPS can use to its fullest, gunblades especially can be used to create some interesting mechanics for DPS, but they would have no use for a tank. It's a waste.

    I liked MrHappys' idea for a Samurai tank, giving them an ability that slashes an enemy while jumping through them to the other side, a very useful mechanic for tank swaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    I will never understand the need for a tank to have a gun anything, the armoury system on this game means each weapon can be used for one class, so why waste a great DPS weapon on a tank, it doesn't make sense. A gun/ Gunblade is a weapon that a DPS can use to its fullest, gunblades especially can be used to create some interesting mechanics for DPS, but they would have no use for a tank. It's a waste.

    I liked MrHappys' idea for a Samurai tank, giving them an ability that slashes an enemy while jumping through them to the other side, a very useful mechanic for tank swaps.
    Old Republic experimented with a Tank class using ranged weaponry for a mainhand. It was actually pretty fun. It was convenient for gaining quick threat on distant mobs, but all the bread and butter threat abilities required mid-close range in order to be fully effective. A gunstaff or a bayonet tipped rifle sounds like it would be a lot of fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    Old Republic experimented with a Tank class using ranged weaponry for a mainhand. It was actually pretty fun. It was convenient for gaining quick threat on distant mobs, but all the bread and butter threat abilities required mid-close range in order to be fully effective. A gunstaff or a bayonet tipped rifle sounds like it would be a lot of fun.
    The problem is you can't really use other games as examples in this regard. If a game wants a ranged tank from the outset, which some do; they have to create game mechanics that reflect that. FFXIV does not, it's set up with melee ranged tanking only in mind. The game mechanics have been set to cater to this, and now that content has been released there's no changing.

    This is where it becomes a waste of a weapon, being that a weapon can only be used for one class, setting a melee class with a ranged weapon takes it away from a class that could use it to its fullest.

    As an example imagine a gunblade dps class, where the rotation caters to switching between melee and gunfire, or a corsair type class where buffs are given in a small aoe around the player but every GCD attack can be activated from range and melee just with different animations. You give gunblade to tank, you just get another tank who instead of throwing a shield or tomohawk, shoots their gun, creating a whole new class for basically the sake of an animation.

    I've noticed the other side of this with people asking for damaging weapons to be used with healers, it becomes a waste of the weapon. These ideas would work in a system that XI had, but in XIV you take that weapon away from a class that would put it too use, just so your healing class can look like its not healing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JakzChurchill View Post
    A gun/ Gunblade is a weapon that a DPS can use to its fullest
    Cause this game needs more DPS roles! :v

    After Ninja I would more than welcome a healing/ tank tree like the ACH set up for Guns/ Gunblades. Would be a much welcomed change up.
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