What's with the Early Pull Brigade?

[Brine_Gildchaff]

Bottom line, the selfish, trollish anti-hunt, anti-social folks are here trying to make an echo chamber full of their bogus claims. Real evidence is in game with all the happy people in hunt LS that are all maxed at 128 and they are always too busy hunting to deal with the nonsense complaints here.

I'm still waiting on that evidence that a single person is "making up" their problems. And of course the hunt LS aren't complaining here, they're too busy doing things like what the OP had to deal with. Nobody in the ivory-walled gardens ever notices the rioting in the streets or the people eating their own feces to survive, unless one of them throws the feces into the garden instead.

And by the way, I did that research I mentioned for ya. Lead GM Enkrateia, weighing in here and in several places later in the same thread.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ia#post2337557

Who is calling you a liar but yourself.

This is almost deliciously ironic coming from the person who quoted my story and replaced the text with "a bunch of bogus hypotheticals".

One sided story about Maahes or anything else it hardly what is called the truth. It is a story told by you and true only to you. The real truth is unknown until you invite the other party to offer to their evidence.

What "other party" exactly? I stated only the actual things which happened to my character (i.e., I engaged battle with Maahes after a party member pulled, I received the Petrify debuff, shortly afterwards Maahes was pulled and I was unable to take actions for several seconds, then I was Petrified again and Maahes was reset again with even more time left on my Petrify timer this time). The simple truth of that incident, whether you stick your fingers and hum real loud or not, is that I received 2 seals on a mob that I found and I shouted a <pos> on because someone else decided that I should be forced to potentially sacrifice my credit so that a group of people I did not know and who may not have even been actively searching for marks could obtain credit on the monster that I found.

[NyarukoW]

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And by the way, I did that research I mentioned for ya. Lead GM Enkrateia, weighing in here and in several places later in the same thread.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ia#post2337557



This is almost deliciously ironic coming from the person who quoted my story and replaced the text with "a bunch of bogus hypotheticals".

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And what the moderator write:

"I would like to note, before closing, that hypothetical situations are usually something I do not like to use, since they tend to simplify a situation to give a certain bias or justification. This example is no different, and should not be used as justification for that type of behaviour or assumption of another customer's guilt. Every situation is unique, and only through a GM investigation can the full situation be reviewed and a final determination be made.
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HYPOTHETICAL!!!

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I think you need to step away from the keyboard if you're going to be this vituperative and emotional. There's no need for name-calling and there's no need to be nasty. ....

Who is being vituperative and emotional and who is calling-names? What was the title of this thread again? "Early Pull Bridgade"? The OP is calling people names and making up stories and was nasty from the start. I've not called anyone names.

Early puller trolling hunts are selfish players and deliberately detrimental to everyone else. This is a fact not name calling. People that supports that behavior simply do NOT like this fact pointed out.

[Ashkendor]

Who is being vituperative and emotional and who is calling-names? What was the title of this thread again? "Early Pull Bridgade"? The OP is calling people names and making up stories and was nasty from the start. I've not called anyone names.

You are, actually. It's possible to argue without being nasty. The OP endured some abhorrent behavior from other people, and you are flat-out calling him a liar and labelling anyone else you perceive as being "on his side" as some kind of anti-hunt sociopath. You clearly haven't read a lot of what we're posting and are just in here to make drama.

Early puller trolling hunts are selfish players and deliberately detrimental to everyone else. This is a fact not name calling. People that supports that behavior simply do NOT like this fact pointed out.

There's ways to say things like this without coming off like a complete ass, but... y'know.

HYPOTHETICAL!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

It won't let me embed, unfortunately.

[NyarukoW]

You are, actually. It's possible to argue without being nasty. ...

The OP is here to create drama with a title of the thread as it is. I am not being nasty, just calling the bluff. In game trolls that don't get their will resort to the forums to make a stink. This is a well known fact. The OP was not treated horridly, the OP got what they deserved.

Sure blame the cat, like a teacher is supposed to believe that the dog ate the homework. Sure, people cussing it up in the shouts should be reported. That kind of language is subject to sanction by the GM. But seriously, I've seen trolls like these show up during prime time doing early pulls, so I only do hunts in the off hours when there is no such issues when people wait and coordinate and share finds etc. No drama.

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BTW here is an example of name calling:

Either your reading comprehension is very poor, or you're just a troll. I don't care which it is, along with your willful ignorance, you're not worth discussing anything with.

And people just discount the parts of what the GM wrote because they don't like it or doesn't support their position.

[Brine_Gildchaff]

The OP is here to create drama with a title of the thread as it is. I am not being nasty, just calling the bluff. In game trolls that don't get their will resort to the forums to make a stink. This is a well known fact. The OP was not treated horridly, the OP got what they deserved.

So a person that accidentally pulled a mob "deserves" to be verbally abused and blacklisted en masse?

[MomomiMomi]

And what the moderator write:

"I would like to note, before closing, that hypothetical situations are usually something I do not like to use, since they tend to simplify a situation to give a certain bias or justification. This example is no different, and should not be used as justification for that type of behaviour or assumption of another customer's guilt. Every situation is unique, and only through a GM investigation can the full situation be reviewed and a final determination be made.
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HYPOTHETICAL!!!

Either your reading comprehension is very poor, or you're just a troll. I don't care which it is, along with your willful ignorance, you're not worth discussing anything with.