Griefing with an emote

[YuriRamona]

Agree or disagree, teabagging (or emote taunting of any sort) has been a standard of gaming behavior since games went online. For SE to take a stance against this would just be ludicrous. And how exactly are they going to police this? Are we going to see "Excessive Celebration" as a reason to kick someone?

Someone said it before: just grow thicker skin and deal with it. Jesus Christ, I can't even believe we are having this conversation.

Let's run through the flaws of your argument.

1. It's ludicrous to take a stand against a standard that has existed since games went online.
Simply because something has existed for a long time or has remained unchanged doesn't necessarily mean that it shouldn't be changed or that it would be a bad idea to attempt to do so. I would cite some obvious real-world parallels but I assume you can come up with a few examples.

2. "Excessive Celebration" is an example of a policy that is difficult/impossible to police.
Simply because something is difficult to police doesn't mean that it shouldn't be policed at all.

For example, we can agree that there are extremes that should and should not be policed, respectively. For example, a player making a fist pump or clapping shouldn't be punished. Alternatively, a player who is delaying a game by celebrating or inciting others to celebrate should be (because we don't know if they're delaying a game to give their team more time to rest [illegal timeouts], time to huddle, time to strategize, etc)

In the real world with sports, this is actually less of an issue because there are "plays" and times in between when the ball is not in play.

In FFXIV's PvP, there is no such exception, because you are always in play and you are expected to always be participating. This means that even delaying a second or two impacts the enjoyment of the game by your team and the opposing teams.

Other examples of "difficult to police" policies: harassment and griefing. We can all agree that stalking someone (sending tells or physically stalking) or slandering someone (for example, making up a story about how you stole gil and shouting in public) are grounds for punishment. There are reasons to punish people even if the policy is vague and has a ton of gray area.

TL;DR: Just because this is a complicated topic and we can validly debate exceptions/inclusions doesn't mean that the topic should be tossed out altogether.

"Someone said it before: just think a little deeper and deal with it. Yahweh, I can't believe you even think these are valid points."