Why can't we have jobs with this level of depth and customization in FFXIV?

[Firepower]

A lot of people don't realise that FFXI didn't even make it to NA until it had been out for 1 year and 5 months in Japan. So if FFXIV followed the FFXI formula this game wouldn't even exist outside japan at the moment (disregarding the 1.0 FFXIV) Plus to further the argument that FFXIV ARR should follow the timeline from 1.0 and as such has been in development for a significant period of time is nonsense as I played in 1.0 alpha/beta/release and ARR alpha/beta/release and the changes between ARR alpha and release are huge so they was clearly working from almost a clean slate mechanically.

So to pull job details from Puppetmaster that didn't exist until ToAU which wasn't released until 4 years after JP release. Not to mention its not really choice and customisation as in the major times for FFXI there was the cookie cutter method or GTFO which essentially even though you had "choice" for merit points or parts for your automaton. You didn't really have the choice as if it wasn't optimal you sucked.

[Fendred]

A lot of people don't realise that FFXI didn't even make it to NA until it had been out for 1 year and 5 months in Japan. So if FFXIV followed the FFXI formula this game wouldn't even exist outside japan at the moment (disregarding the 1.0 FFXIV) Plus to further the argument that FFXIV ARR should follow the timeline from 1.0 and as such has been in development for a significant period of time is nonsense as I played in 1.0 alpha/beta/release and ARR alpha/beta/release and the changes between ARR alpha and release are huge so they was clearly working from almost a clean slate mechanically.

So to pull job details from Puppetmaster that didn't exist until ToAU which wasn't released until 4 years after JP release. Not to mention its not really choice and customisation as in the major times for FFXI there was the cookie cutter method or GTFO which essentially even though you had "choice" for merit points or parts for your automaton. You didn't really have the choice as if it wasn't optimal you sucked.

Except they spent two years remaking the game into ARR, so the comparison is kind of moot. Also they've stuck themselves in a bad situation with end game by oversimplifying things. There isn't enough options on the individual roles + cross class skill system to make anything interesting outside team jump roping. The game doesn't need to be D&D 3rd edition complex, but it needs to expand its horizons outside the overused norm of the industry. Whatever power this model held over gamers has been diminished significantly from years of abuse and overuse.

[Exstal]

Except they spent two years remaking the game into ARR, so the comparison is kind of moot. Also they've stuck themselves in a bad situation with end game by oversimplifying things. There isn't enough options on the individual roles + cross class skill system to make anything interesting outside team jump roping. The game doesn't need to be D&D 3rd edition complex, but it needs to expand its horizons outside the overused norm of the industry. Whatever power this model held over gamers has been diminished significantly from years of abuse and overuse.

Except that I'm sure FFXI had 2~3 years of building before it even released in Japan, so the point is valid. I'll say they cut down a lot of time because they didn't have to redo *all* of the lore, classes, names, and the like. But it's been said many times, it's still pretty different from 1.0~1.23. We should all realize that 2.0-3.0 is, "did we remake it so that people don't leave and we go free-to-play within 6 months?". Since it didn't happen, they can try some ballsy stuff with 3.0. If not, then FFXIV is likely doomed to become a niche MMO with only a few thousand subs in 1~5 years.