[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[Dwill]

Wait... so you mean that people can't post their opinions on a class/job unless they've lvled it all the way to lvl 50?
That's the worst piece of crap I've ever heard.

Having lvled arcanist to lvl 50 twice, once on my first character when 2.0 was released and recently on a character on another server, I can promise that there's no bloody difference in playstyle between summoner lvl 40 and lvl 50, which makes your argument invalid. If you can't come up with anything better then please go bother someone else... -.-

What kind of drivel is this ? You get Rouse at 42, Spur at 45, Miasma II at 46, Enkindle and Shadow Flare at 50. How doesn't that make a difference in playstyle ?

You can't really be calling other people's arguments with statements that are this ridiculous.

[Xaeth]

What kind of drivel is this ? You get Rouse at 42, Spur at 45, Miasma II at 46, Enkindle and Shadow Flare at 50. How doesn't that make a difference in playstyle ?

You can't really be calling other people's arguments with statements that are this ridiculous.

You pretty much take and replace ruin with Rouse, Spur, Enkindle and Shadowflare when fitting. Is that what you call a different playstyle?
Two of these abilities does pretty much the same thing which is a damage boost to your pet and one is a nuke that you can use once every five minutes.
Sure Miasma II, Shadowflare and Enkindle is a nice improvement to Summoners AOE capabilities but they hardly change the playstyle.

And if you want to invalidate my argument you might wanna add how these abilities make such a huge difference in playstyle. Just naming abilities isn't an argument in itself you know.

[Dwill]

You pretty much take and replace ruin with Rouse, Spur, Enkindle and Shadowflare when fitting. Is that what you call a different playstyle?
Two of these abilities does pretty much the same thing which is a damage boost to your pet and one is a nuke that you can use once every five minutes.

Sure Miasma II, Shadowflare and Enkindle is a nice improvement to Summoners AOE capabilities but they hardly change the playstyle.

And if you want to invalidate my argument you might wanna add how these abilities make such a huge difference in playstyle. Just naming abilities isn't an argument in itself you know.

The fact is that all of these abilities can and will also be used on single target under certain conditions as well as being used in AoE, therefore they can and will alter the playstyle depending on the situation, which is something that any remotely competent summoner will tell you. The fact that you claim:

I can promise that there's no bloody difference in playstyle between summoner lvl 40 and lvl 50

speaks volume about your actual knowledge of the summoner class.