SE Forgot to Add YouTube as a Requirement on Game Packaging/System Requirements?

[Teirshin]

Now player A has to put in more effort to teach player B. Player A already put in the time to learn the fight. Player A is not being lazy be refusing to explain stuff.

Player A is just being an anti-social tool for not wanting to help other people in a social game where the whole point is to interact with others.

Heaven forbid player A uses that almighty knowledge of what they've learned to help someone else and teach them.

Nope, cant do that, too concerned with their own gains to care.

WoW had a better community at pretty much all stages compared to what I see around FFXIV most nights.

In the end, I blame a lot of parents for raising spoiled rotten kids who have no concept of respect and acceptable social behavior and that think the world revolves only around them, both in and out of game.

Pssst.... here's a secret... it doesnt!

[Amberion]

Player A is just being an anti-social tool for not wanting to help other people in a social game where the whole point is to interact with others.

That would be like calling a retired teacher who doesn't teach children anymore anti-social tool.

It's not their job.

In the end, I blame a lot of parents for raising spoiled rotten kids who have no concept of respect and acceptable social behavior and that think the world revolves only around them, both in and out of game.

So when you want to learn something new, you expect random person B to help you out? Now who was raised to be a spoiled brat and thinks the world revolves around them?

When I want to learn something, I look up the information myself. Or maybe ask a friend or family member. I don't expect a person I don't know to do it for me. And if some random person decides to help me, I'm grateful since I know he has no obligation to help me.

[Moqi]

That would be like calling a retired teacher who doesn't teach children anymore anti-social tool.

It's not their job.

It takes 30 seconds at most to explain most strats... why are people acting like it's a big deal. You know what takes more time than that though? Coming to the forum to whine about players asking for advice.

[Teirshin]

That would be like calling a retired teacher who doesn't teach children anymore anti-social tool.

It's not their job.



So when you want to learn something new, you expect random person B to help you out? Now who was raised to be a spoiled brat and thinks the world revolves around them?

When I want to learn something, I look up the information myself. Or maybe ask a friend or family member. I don't expect a person I don't know to do it for me. And if some random person decides to help me, I'm grateful since I know he has no obligation to help me.

I never said it was their "job", they should WANT TO help others. If you dont, then yes, you're an anti-social tool.

Why play a social game with others if you're only going to care about yourself? Ah yes, that "special snowflake" attitude that parents teach nowadays..... that would explain a lot.

A retired teacher isnt anti-social, they worked all their life teaching. Player A didnt, and is thus an anti-social tool. The two arent even close to being simliar, so you get an F for your example.

Oh, and going by your example of a retired teacher.... to be equivalent, someone would have to be done playing the game, just like the teacher is done teaching, which they arent, they're actively playing, so... if they dont want to be labeled an anti-social tool, then start helping, or stop playing the game and be "retired".

The average teacher in this world sacrifices a lot more time, money and dignity than you do by making it their goal to teach kids. So to think that you're "sacrificing" in game by having to teach someone, is pathetic.

[Dejectedbunny]

That would be like calling a retired teacher who doesn't teach children anymore anti-social tool.

It's not their job.



So when you want to learn something new, you expect random person B to help you out? Now who was raised to be a spoiled brat and thinks the world revolves around them?

When I want to learn something, I look up the information myself. Or maybe ask a friend or family member. I don't expect a person I don't know to do it for me. And if some random person decides to help me, I'm grateful since I know he has no obligation to help me.

Except that all of the people in the dungeon, event, etc. are there to achieve the same goal. They're working cooperatively, not competitively. Only a fool would knowingly withhold information from their team when attempting to reach a common end.

[Amberion]

Except that all of the people in the dungeon, event, etc. are there to achieve the same goal. They're working cooperatively, not competitively. Only a fool would knowingly withhold information from their team when attempting to reach a common end.

Why should that 1 person expect them to help him though? He is expecting them to do the job he/she couldn't be bothered with doing himself. That is the very definition of selfish.

Why play a social game with others if you're only going to care about yourself? Ah yes, that "special snowflake" attitude that parents teach nowadays..... that would explain a lot.

Socialize, does not mean teach others. No one I have met started playing this game for that reason.

And Teirshin, I think you need to pick up a dictionary to learn what words mean before you spout them.

Let's see if you get this.

Example 1.

1 person asks the other 3-7-23 whatever number of people to do something for him, because he could not be bothered with it.

Example 2.

3 people expecting the last to have done something they themselves did.

Now, can you say which example has the special snowflake?

And I don't really mind helping, it's just that I mind people thinking it's some obligation of the older players to teach others.

A retired teacher isnt anti-social, they worked all their life teaching. Player A didnt, and is thus an anti-social tool. The two arent even close to being simliar, so you get an F for your example.

Fine, we can say the person was a truck driver instead of a teacher. Does that make him antisocial? Or is it some rule that only applies to MMORPG?

[KaiKatzchen]

Why should that 1 person expect them to help him though? He is expecting them to do the job he/she couldn't be bothered with doing himself. That is the very definition of selfish.?

and ect stuff that was said...

Very easy way to test this theory. Next time a new dungeon comes out do not ask for any help. Do not run with LS/FC members or friends. Wait for the videos and tutorials to come out first, watch and review those, and then run the dungeon by yourself with no one else you know in the DF... but you can not help or tell them anything either, because they should have done what you did and should know it.

Now have a friend that you know do the opposite, run with people they know who want to help, give advice and don't mind telling them where they are going wrong.

Then we can see which way works better, who learned quicker and who beat the dungeon first. It would actually be an interesting experiment to see which way really is more efficient for online players.

But you probably won't do it, because it's wasting your time when you can just get help from friends and FC members by working together, helping one another and getting advice.

[Teirshin]

And Teirshin, I think you need to pick up a dictionary to learn what words mean before you spout them.

Hmm, so this taken direct from Merriam-Webster Dictionary...

so·cial·ize verb \ˈsō-shə-ˌlīz\
: to talk to and do things with other people in a friendly way

: to teach (someone) to behave in a way that is acceptable

... isnt right?

I'll let them know they made a mistake and you're the final word on what the word means. Not.

Keep trying, you only pass yourself off as more and more like the tools I mentioned when you try to defend your position.

[Amberion]

Hmm, so this taken direct from Merriam-Webster Dictionary...



... isnt right?

I'll let them know they made a mistake and you're the final word on what the word means. Not.

Keep trying, you only pass yourself off as more and more like the tools I mentioned when you try to defend your position.

So, since when is teaching someone dodging mechanics even relevant to behaving?

Did you even read it yourself?

Remember that a book can teach someone, robot too and various other things.

That does not mean you are socializing with a book, or a robot.

[KaiKatzchen]

So, since when is teaching someone dodging mechanics even relevant to behaving?

be·haved or be·hav·ing

transitive verb
1
: to manage the actions of (oneself) in a particular way
1
: to act, function, or react in a particular way

Learning to dodge is to teach someone to react in a specific way so it is behavioral.