A fundamental flaw with FL (and PvP in general)

[Gor]

Healers need a nerf [blah blah blah]. Healers need to be toned down because nobody should be able to survive if they have an entire party focusing them down.

yea yea yea whatever, healers were just nerfed and people are still biching. build a bridge and get over it. you're over-exaggerating. if an entire team is focusing a healer, it will die, unless the healer manages to run off the cliff and get away.

the huge problem isn't healers, the huge problem is your team. so it doesn't matter how many nerfs SE does, until alliances learn how to play as a team, healers will just keep on living. enjoy.

[Gor]

Have you Bothered to read more then the ops post by chance?

HAILES HELP!!!

[Amused]

No class should be able to perform every role well in PvP. Healers can do that and then some, depending on whether it's a White Mage or Scholar. It's as simple as that and isn't even debatable. Name one class that is even close to being as versatile and powerful as healers are in PvP.

Also, you act as though it's easy to just focus down a healer. As if they have no team mates or anything to protect them. Yup, it's just as simple as targeting the healer and killing them. It's not like they can sprint away, or become nearly invincible, or be unable to have their casts interrupted, or push you away. Then you have to factor in them being healed by other healers, being covered and/or testudo'd by a Paladin. There are currently too many ways for a healer to survive and too few ways to actually kill them.

[Hailie]

Also, you act as though it's easy to just focus down a healer. As if they have no team mates or anything to protect them. Yup, it's just as simple as targeting the healer and killing them. It's not like they can sprint away, or become nearly invincible, or be unable to have their casts interrupted, or push you away. Then you have to factor in them being healed by other healers, being covered and/or testudo'd by a Paladin. There are currently too many ways for a healer to survive and too few ways to actually kill them.

ENTIRE TEAM focusing a healer down The healer is going to die so sounds like you are over exaggerating with that 1, If a healer has good team mates that help them survive then its a bad thing? Sounds like your team and you could be the issue.

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I said party, not team. And no, they are not necessarily going to die. Paladins can Cover, Testudo, and Stoneskin them as well as stun people to peel. Other classes can stun, bind, and CC in other ways as well. This is all assuming there aren't other healers there to heal the healer that is being attacked as well.

Hilarious that you resort to personal attacks when you're unable to refute my argument.

Anyway, as I said, healers are broken right now. They are too strong compared to every other role in the game and I have presented solid evidence that supports my statement of them being overly powerful. You responded with ad hominem, nice.

How would you feel if Paladins could heal nearly as well as healers do? How would you feel if they could heal nearly as well as healers do AND deal damage nearly as well as damage dealers do? That sounds pretty unfair, doesn't it? Now imagine the Paladin can sprint without exhausting their main resource as well, that's even more unfair, isn't?

Oh yeah, I almost forgot! Healers are the only classes capable of removing debuffs without using cooldowns. Esuna and Leeches are the only skills of their kind and they are ONLY on healers.

[Gor]

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that was not a ad hominem attack , it was the truth. if your entire party/team cannot kill a healer, the problem is your team, not the healer. but anyways, go ahead and keep right on complaining, healers are going nowhere and neither is your ranting.

[Amused]

that was not a ad hominem attack , it was the truth. if your entire party/team cannot kill a healer, the problem is your team, not the healer. but anyways, go ahead and keep right on complaining, healers are going nowhere and neither is your ranting.

It was an ad hominem attack. Do you even know what ad hominem means? He made a personal attack at my ability as a player that was completely baseless otherwise. He did not address my argument. He just attacked me personally. That is ad hominem. That is how you lose an argument. That is how you make yourself look like an ass.

I'm not complaining, by the way, as I couldn't even begin to care less who gets nerfed because I have every class leveled. What I'm doing here is stating facts. Healers are overpowered and it is not even up for debate.

Of course you're going to vehemently deny it though, because you play healer mostly and are afraid of losing your god mode.

[Hailie]

It was an ad hominem attack. Do you even know what ad hominem means? He made a personal attack at my ability as a player that was completely baseless otherwise. He did not address my argument. He just attacked me personally. That is ad hominem. That is how you lose an argument. That is how you make yourself look like an ass.

I'm not complaining, by the way, as I couldn't even begin to care less who gets nerfed because I have every class leveled. What I'm doing here is stating facts. Healers are overpowered and it is not even up for debate.

Of course you're going to vehemently deny it though, because you play healer mostly and are afraid of losing your god mode.

Yep.. again.. its pretty clear that you did not read any of the other post in this thread...again its more then likely you and your team.. you want Healers to be defenseless.

[Hailie]

It was an ad hominem attack. Do you even know what ad hominem means? He made a personal attack at my ability as a player that was completely baseless otherwise. He did not address my argument. He just attacked me personally. That is ad hominem. That is how you lose an argument. That is how you make yourself look like an ass.

I'm not complaining, by the way, as I couldn't even begin to care less who gets nerfed because I have every class leveled. What I'm doing here is stating facts. Healers are overpowered and it is not even up for debate.

Of course you're going to vehemently deny it though, because you play healer mostly and are afraid of losing your god mode.

IF you took the time to actually READ more of the post that are in this THREAD you would see that your complaints have already been addressed! I was not making any personal attacks at your ability as a player It was the TRUTH so you jumped to the defense for no reason.

[Amused]

Nice job failing to address my evidence yet again Hailie. Not sure why you wasted your time making posts that serve no purpose other than to reiterate your non-existent argument. Why do you continue to neglect the obvious fact that healers can perform every role in PvP at a comparable level to classes purely dedicated to said role all while being able to heal FAR better than any other class in the game? Why should healers be able to tank damage like a tank? Why should healers be able to deal damage like a damage dealer with cleric stance? Why should healers get more PvP skills than any other role? Why are healers the only ones able to cleanse debuffs without using a cooldown? Why can healers run away for free while TP based classes have to spend their main resource just to catch up? If they even want to do anything after catching them they need to blow ANOTHER cooldown just to have their TP back. A healer trades nothing for this. They can just run away absolutely for free all while having all these other perks to them. How would you feel if you had to dump your entire mana pool just to sprint?

Care to answer any of those questions or are you just going to side step them all over again and make yet another worthless post?

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