Official Open World PvP Petition

[Copestetic]

Actually, I didn't even think about the queue times in my initial post, nor my latest one. By the time a dedicated server is made for PvP, I'd like to think that they'd have worked-out the kinks in the current system, along with getting rid of the Grand Company requirement that goes with FL. As for Wolve's Den, again, by then I'd hope they'd fix it up a little, to make it relevant within the PvP community. Assuming they've done all this by the time a PvP server is introduced, the queue times would be much better than they are now; especially in Frontlines. So in my opinion, queue times will be a non-issue with FL, and possibly WD as well.

To avoid writing a book again, I'll summarize my previous argument. The world is a big place. You're taking the minority of players and stuffing them on one server with access to instanced PvP with much better queue times in the future that span across different worlds/data centers, and tons of instanced PvE. How certain are you, that you'll even see someone? I'm on Jenova, and I can count on one hand how many people I see travelling across the maps in each zone. Supposedly my server's populated with tons of PS4 users from what I've heard in-game. How many do you think you'll see on a PvP server doing the same thing, knowing the risk? I'll help you; the minority, of the minority. Outside of bosses like Odin and such of course.

Call me what you wish, the fact of the matter is I'm just as much into PvP as the next guy. I've been a part of PvP communities for going on 9 years now across various B2P, F2P, P2P, and P2W games. If open-world PvP is added to the game, it should be done right. Not just tacked on like the majority of you want. Otherwise it's going to be a disaster like I'm forecasting, just as it's been in many, many games before FFXIV. This game is no exception.

[Hailie]

I would love to comment more on this topic, but doing it here with the dumb 1000 word limit is pointless. And arguing with biased PvM carebears is just a waste of time. Nothing will change their biased minds. I'm pretty sure I've said this before somewhere in this thread but, if you don't like the idea of an open-world PvP, kindly refrain from commenting on this thread.

Well maybe you should take your own advice? the same can go for you, People have their own opinions. And guess what? I don't like the idea of Open world pvp.

[Divinemight]

I would love to comment more on this topic, but doing it here with the dumb 1000 word limit is pointless. And arguing with biased PvM carebears is just a waste of time. Nothing will change their biased minds. I'm pretty sure I've said this before somewhere in this thread but, if you don't like the idea of an open-world PvP, kindly refrain from commenting on this thread.

You are biased yourself when you think people who don't agree with Open World PvP are PvM carebears. You have failed to realize the reason behind que time issue: English PvP community is just too small. If you browse Frontline ranking, you will see it is Japanese players are occupied top 100 (70+ victories). They have a much bigger Frontline PvP population than us and they have no concern with Frontline/WD que time.

Reality check! English PvP community is already small. If you sample the responses from this thread, this small PvP community is further divided on World PvP. Japanese is not support World PvP at large and those who want to would not choose to play with non Japanese. PvE will not come to this server and probably same as those crafters. What is your chance for a server with nothing listed on the market board?

Also, please admit it. Majority of so called world PvPers can only take advantage on PvEers. When real PvPer show up and shut their face, they would just run. In wow, they will just hop on fly mount and staring at you, hoping you will leave so they can go back to gank PvEer. What do you think you will get out of it when there is no PvEer for you to gank?

If you only care about PvP only and want faster que, take my advice, transfer yourself to any of Japanese server instead of asking for something impossible. They are not going to open a server for you whe. You don't even have a population size to sustain it
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[Skeet]

Well maybe you should take your own advice? the same can go for you, People have their own opinions. And guess what? I don't like the idea of Open world pvp.

This thread is a petition for it. Not one against it. There's a difference.

You are biased yourself when you think people who don't agree with Open World PvP are PvM carebears.

Reality check! English PvP community is already small.

I never said I wasn't biased myself. I'm for the idea of it after all. However, the main difference is I can understand both sides perspectives. But almost all PvM-player comments are so pathetically biased in this thread and you know it. Everyone knows the PvP community is small; does that change the idea of implementing one server for open-world PvP? No. Let it play out. See what happens. If it fails, it fails. If it succeeds, it succeeds. Many games thrived over small communities. And creating one server doesn't hurt anyone.

[Copestetic]

But there's no "if" in introducing a PvP server. It will fail if that's all that's being added. You understand that, correct? And when it does fail, what does that say to SE? To prospective players wanting in to test out the PvP? There needs to be major changes for it to succeed even remotely as well as the lowest populated PvE server.

In my honest opinion, the game needs a test run before going and making a server for the 100 or so open-world PvP'ers to hunt each other. Introduce a map that's tied to PvE that's open-world. Not Frontlines, but an actual map that people have to go to for some PvE thing, a new set of gear, a quest, or a world boss. Something like that to test the waters.

[Amused]

Open world PvP would not make sense for this game and would not work very well. Nothing good could come from this (on the PvP server at least) but if griefers want a containment server for themselves though I can't say I'd complain.

[Divinemight]

If it fails, it fails. If it succeeds, it succeeds. Many games thrived over small communities. And creating one server doesn't hurt anyone.

You obviously didn't pay attention to Yoship's expression when he is being asked about World PvP. A server must have at least 2,000 players in order to be functional. Do you even have that number? Not to mention about cost of maintain a server by a third party. Face it, you are not going to get it. At the best, you have higher chance to make Wolf's den pier an open PvP zone. Again, they probably won't let you to have PvP activity around the vendors because that would consider as griefing. Have fun gank each other there.

[Koltik]

I would love to comment more on this topic, but doing it here with the dumb 1000 word limit is pointless.

You can get around this by editing your post btw. Edited posts have no word limits.

[DeepInTheCut]

How about just a simple dueling system, ya cry babies? Although the hardcore, competitive PvP player is scarce in a game that caters to cheesy, cosplay PvE heroes, we do exist, and the basis of our desire for an open-world PvP server is just so we can get the action we're longing for. I personally am not satisfied with with besting dungeons and raids... my bloodlust beckons. Duels could hold me over until the day Yoshi's lazy ass figures out a way to make open-world PvP work. It would also help us better conceptualize how to best approach each individual class/job in current PvP. My 2 cents...

[Divinemight]

How about just a simple dueling system, ya cry babies? Although the hardcore, competitive PvP player is scarce in a game that caters to cheesy, cosplay PvE heroes, we do exist, and the basis of our desire for an open-world PvP server is just so we can get the action we're longing for. I personally am not satisfied with with besting dungeons and raids... my bloodlust beckons. Duels could hold me over until the day Yoshi's lazy ass figures out a way to make open-world PvP work. It would also help us better conceptualize how to best approach each individual class/job in current PvP. My 2 cents...

I do not support opern world PvP due to current game balance of jobs mainly, but if you are thinking I am a cry baby, cheesy, or a carebear. You are more welcome to come to WoW Arthas to find out. Either you didnt read the thread or you ignore my suggestion of turn Wolf Den Pier into a PvP zone.