Official Open World PvP Petition

[Skeet]

This is another reason why I don't believe open-world PvP will do well in FFXIV unless it's quite literally, the only PvP available on a dedicated server or, the rewards are much better than what you could get in Frontlines/Wolve's Den.

Honestly your post doesn't even sound like you've even played in an open-world PvP game. Or if you have, you don't sound like a person who enjoys something like that. Do you think PKers kill other players for rewards? Hell no. They do it because it's fun. Some people like to kill players to grief them. Some just like the thrill of outsmarting your opponents. But PKing for rewards? Lol no. PKing others is the reward to almost all of them.

[Copestetic]

Honestly your post doesn't even sound like you've even played in an open-world PvP game. Or if you have, you don't sound like a person who enjoys something like that. Do you think PKers kill other players for rewards? Hell no. They do it because it's fun. Some people like to kill players to grief them. Some just like the thrill of outsmarting your opponents. But PKing for rewards? Lol no. PKing others is the reward to almost all of them.

Really? That's all you could come up with after reading ( assuming ) my book? I could careless what's the point of PK'ing someone else. You're wanting to shove the smallest PvP community I've ever seen in an MMO, into one huge server dedicated to them, and implement a flagging feature in a game that 90% of its content is instanced. Logic? No. It's stupid. No one here will be able to come up with a solution to that. Even taking away a flagging feature, there's tons of towns/cities where people most likely won't be able to attack someone. Guess where they'll be after a few months? There. If not there, in one of the 100,000,000,000 instances in this game. "Oh but Fates and Hunts!" Big whoop. You might get 5 a day in a 24-hour stretch from hunting on normal Fates. For Hunts, there will probably be some "rule" implemented by the extremely small PvP server community, that no one's allowed to PK there. I'm sure some of the larger FC's can claim bosses like Odin and Behemoth, which you'd probably get some fun out of that every what? Three days? Sweet. The other two you're trying to run around each zone finding someone to kill.

All it takes is a look at other games. Open-world PvP will fail in this game unless it's just flat-out ludicrous on rewards to where it makes all instances obsolete.

[Skeet]

I would love to comment more on this topic, but doing it here with the dumb 1000 word limit is pointless. And arguing with biased PvM carebears is just a waste of time. Nothing will change their biased minds. I'm pretty sure I've said this before somewhere in this thread but, if you don't like the idea of an open-world PvP, kindly refrain from commenting on this thread.

[Hailie]

I would love to comment more on this topic, but doing it here with the dumb 1000 word limit is pointless. And arguing with biased PvM carebears is just a waste of time. Nothing will change their biased minds. I'm pretty sure I've said this before somewhere in this thread but, if you don't like the idea of an open-world PvP, kindly refrain from commenting on this thread.

Well maybe you should take your own advice? the same can go for you, People have their own opinions. And guess what? I don't like the idea of Open world pvp.

[Divinemight]

I would love to comment more on this topic, but doing it here with the dumb 1000 word limit is pointless. And arguing with biased PvM carebears is just a waste of time. Nothing will change their biased minds. I'm pretty sure I've said this before somewhere in this thread but, if you don't like the idea of an open-world PvP, kindly refrain from commenting on this thread.

You are biased yourself when you think people who don't agree with Open World PvP are PvM carebears. You have failed to realize the reason behind que time issue: English PvP community is just too small. If you browse Frontline ranking, you will see it is Japanese players are occupied top 100 (70+ victories). They have a much bigger Frontline PvP population than us and they have no concern with Frontline/WD que time.

Reality check! English PvP community is already small. If you sample the responses from this thread, this small PvP community is further divided on World PvP. Japanese is not support World PvP at large and those who want to would not choose to play with non Japanese. PvE will not come to this server and probably same as those crafters. What is your chance for a server with nothing listed on the market board?

Also, please admit it. Majority of so called world PvPers can only take advantage on PvEers. When real PvPer show up and shut their face, they would just run. In wow, they will just hop on fly mount and staring at you, hoping you will leave so they can go back to gank PvEer. What do you think you will get out of it when there is no PvEer for you to gank?

If you only care about PvP only and want faster que, take my advice, transfer yourself to any of Japanese server instead of asking for something impossible. They are not going to open a server for you whe. You don't even have a population size to sustain it
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[Skeet]

Well maybe you should take your own advice? the same can go for you, People have their own opinions. And guess what? I don't like the idea of Open world pvp.

This thread is a petition for it. Not one against it. There's a difference.

You are biased yourself when you think people who don't agree with Open World PvP are PvM carebears.

Reality check! English PvP community is already small.

I never said I wasn't biased myself. I'm for the idea of it after all. However, the main difference is I can understand both sides perspectives. But almost all PvM-player comments are so pathetically biased in this thread and you know it. Everyone knows the PvP community is small; does that change the idea of implementing one server for open-world PvP? No. Let it play out. See what happens. If it fails, it fails. If it succeeds, it succeeds. Many games thrived over small communities. And creating one server doesn't hurt anyone.

[Copestetic]

But there's no "if" in introducing a PvP server. It will fail if that's all that's being added. You understand that, correct? And when it does fail, what does that say to SE? To prospective players wanting in to test out the PvP? There needs to be major changes for it to succeed even remotely as well as the lowest populated PvE server.

In my honest opinion, the game needs a test run before going and making a server for the 100 or so open-world PvP'ers to hunt each other. Introduce a map that's tied to PvE that's open-world. Not Frontlines, but an actual map that people have to go to for some PvE thing, a new set of gear, a quest, or a world boss. Something like that to test the waters.

[Divinemight]

If it fails, it fails. If it succeeds, it succeeds. Many games thrived over small communities. And creating one server doesn't hurt anyone.

You obviously didn't pay attention to Yoship's expression when he is being asked about World PvP. A server must have at least 2,000 players in order to be functional. Do you even have that number? Not to mention about cost of maintain a server by a third party. Face it, you are not going to get it. At the best, you have higher chance to make Wolf's den pier an open PvP zone. Again, they probably won't let you to have PvP activity around the vendors because that would consider as griefing. Have fun gank each other there.