Next relic update in 2.38.

[Canopia]

I enjoy seeing people complain about the atma slot machine and the first response i see is "Oh so you want them to mail it to you?!". You can have a long process without placing it inside a gatcha ball in a slot machine. The step after the Atma is proof that they are capable of doing so. I dont want them to mail me my atma relic, but I want to have more control over its progression beyond "Complete fate, pray to RNG gods". I would gladly take a step by step being doing something 100 times over a trip to Relic Vegas.

Though the next step, I could guess they may just add a new sparkle to the weapon and change its name. Wouldnt surprise me in the least.

[Ashkendor]

Anyone personally hoping SE returns to "intermediate" challenges? Such as the next upgrade requires you to defeat the 6 extreme primals? Atma, Animus and Novus have all been "easy" content grind. Extreme primals would be a fair progression and echo back to the 2.0 days (defeat Titan HM).

Based on the past "trials" for the relic upgrades, I can't really see them doing that. Relics seem to be meant as an alternative to the endgame weapons from coil for those that may not be able to clear it. Having that alternative also gated behind endgame content would be pretty counterproductive. Coil requires both a skilled player and a skilled group to assist you; relics ultimately just require time and gil and I would expect that trend to continue.

[melflomil]

Hope is something like learn the history of the one god you choose in the beginning. How did he/she became so great. in order to learn the history you have to bring an item dropped by defeated extreme primals to scholar. something on the line of that.

[Metatronn]

I prefer doing 10.000 levequests than having to clear SCoB and extreme primals just for this.

[MasamuneBranford]

I prefer doing 10.000 levequests than having to clear SCoB and extreme primals just for this.

I didn't say clear any of the BCB - I simply said the extreme primals. I'd consider the extreme primals to be the current "intermediate' difficulty content available in ARR. You can still leech victories on all of the extreme primals.

[saeedaisspecial]

I prefer doing 10.000 levequests than having to clear SCoB and extreme primals just for this.

Speak for yourself.
I'd rather future relic quests had Chimera/Hydra-style fights that were moderate skill checks that weren't incredible challenges but enough to make you feel worthy as opposed to something a lobotomised monkey could do.

[KuroganeAre]

JUST BRING IT!!!

[Sapphic]

it was in one of the live letters trabslations in reinhearts old (1.xx)JP to English thread.

In 2.0 turn 5 weapons were the same ilvl as zenith, ilvl 90. But Yoshi decided to buff the t5 weapons to ilvl 95 to give a bit extra for those clearing, at the time, the hardest content in the game, which continued with SCoB, 110 max relic, 115 coil HA weapon. So yes, he did say that but due to feedback, changed direction.

[Wolf_Gang]

• Getting Novus requires more work and commitment than getting HA.
• 2.4 will probably be a month away from 2.38
• They will probably add a couple weeks worth of work to get it.
• coil will be unlocked, and Shiva could possibly drop i115 weaps anyway making HA obsolete by the time it's mass-adopted.

[ispano]

• Getting Novus requires more work and commitment than getting HA.
• 2.4 will probably be a month away from 2.38
• They will probably add a couple weeks worth of work to get it.
• coil will be unlocked, and Shiva could possibly drop i115 weaps anyway making HA obsolete by the time it's mass-adopted.

More work? Sure, it takes more time, but the quality of the "work" is in no way comparable to Coil.