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    These posers kill me with this crazy talk. Having played XI, I can honestly say I DON'T miss places like Castle Zvahl [S] where no one could move 5 steps without something attacking them regardless of stealth abilities. Those true-sight mechanics can stay away from this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    These posers kill me with this crazy talk. Having played XI, I can honestly say I DON'T miss places like Castle Zvahl [S] where no one could move 5 steps without something attacking them regardless of stealth abilities. Those true-sight mechanics can stay away from this game.
    Er, that would be very fitting due to story and the timeline of where your talking about in XI lol.... That would be like expecting to walk into the empire's main HQ in XIV and expecting a warm welcome. I will agree XI over did it in some areas, but overall the game itself was like that and to be expected, and places like Zvahl would be no exception lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho86 View Post
    Er, that would be very fitting due to story and the timeline of where your talking about in XI lol.... That would be like expecting to walk into the empire's main HQ in XIV and expecting a warm welcome. I will agree XI over did it in some areas, but overall the game itself was like that and to be expected, and places like Zvahl would be no exception lol.
    *cough* Open World Castrums *cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    *cough* Open World Castrums *cough*
    Yeah but its still a far cry for an example. I can walk into those places and gather half the enemies inside there and stand a very good chance at living, you can't do that with places like Zvahl (s). Least when the cap was still 75, didn't check it out when it became 99, but then again everything changed at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho86 View Post
    Yeah but its still a far cry for an example. I can walk into those places and gather half the enemies inside there and stand a very good chance at living, you can't do that with places like Zvahl (s). Least when the cap was still 75, didn't check it out when it became 99, but then again everything changed at that point.
    No, no... I was making a joke: "That would be like expecting to walk into the empire's main HQ in XIV and expecting a warm welcome."

    You can walk into their HQs and do as you said above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    No, no... I was making a joke: "That would be like expecting to walk into the empire's main HQ in XIV and expecting a warm welcome."

    You can walk into their HQs and do as you said above.
    Ah, sorry, can never tell who is serious on the forums heh. Plus I never really considered them much of a threat anymore with how the story played out. I was meaning to example like Garelmald, the heart of the empire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayward View Post
    These posers kill me with this crazy talk. Having played XI, I can honestly say I DON'T miss places like Castle Zvahl [S] where no one could move 5 steps without something attacking them regardless of stealth abilities. Those true-sight mechanics can stay away from this game.
    People look at FFXI with nostalgia goggles, sadly. They don't remember how infuriating those areas were and instead choose to paint them with "OMG THIS WAS SO AWESOME", when really it was just a bunch of players shouting at each other because someone pulled aggro and caused everyone to die and lose EXP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColorOfSakura View Post
    People look at FFXI with nostalgia goggles, sadly.
    Everytime someone says this it's basically saying:

    "People didn't actually like the game they played, because chances are I didn't like it, so therefore no one liked it."

    They don't remember how infuriating those areas were and instead choose to paint them with "OMG THIS WAS SO AWESOME",
    Believe it or not, people realize how scary Skydiving is which is why some choose not to do it whereas some choose to because of the rush and excitment. A sense of danger and getting through something that leaves you tense is actually pretty adrenaline pumping for some people, believe it or not. Everything is infuriating when you get to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Everytime someone says this it's basically saying:

    "People didn't actually like the game they played, because chances are I didn't like it, so therefore no one liked it."
    Except it isn't. I played XI for a long time and loved the hell out of that game. That said, I look back at it now and there's a lot about the game I see and go "Euuugh." And there are some things I remember fondly now that I *hated* when I played the game.

    I'm not saying people didn't like XI. I'm not saying that that my opinion is the end-all be-all of ANYTHING. What I am saying is that a lot of times people have fond memories of stuff that (at the time) were likely not fond memories. But they choose to dress it up as something better than it was.

    People have done this since time immemorial. It's like listening to our parents or grandparents (or any other adults who are quite a bit older than us) talk about the "good ole days" and how much better things were back then. Except, they weren't really better, but the passage of time makes people fond of things in their past, and allows them to forget or gloss over the things they may not have liked or that may have been bad.

    That's what the concept of "nostalgia goggles" represents - looking into the past and not noticing the blemishes that were there and that you were fully aware of at the time.
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    Well, expand on what you liked and didn't like. Let's get to the specifics so we can understand our tastes.
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