Leisure Outfit

[Chezen]

People will be bytch about everything that is new/added >.< Clearly these people need to go to a pool or a beach or something to see this isn't the early/mid 1900's anymore xD

Excellent way of putting it btw Capita... plus it's only somehow bad when it's a woman revealing skin(more often than not) lmao Sickening how sexist people still are! Just wear what you want as Capita said and stop worrying about how other people view you, you WILL be happier hehe

Ok, let me put it this way, if I were to say, "the more "revealing" an outfit, the more likely sex will be the foremost on a man's mind." Is there any HONEST man, who is fully "functional" and attracted to women, that would say that is not true?

And even if there are a few (and I commend you greatly), is it not true that this is the norm, as has been discussed among men?

It doesn't matter what era it is, natural responses do not change.

There is nothing you can point out of what I said, that isn't true, (other than views on what a complaint is). Having values is about being responsible, not stamping out individuality. The real issue, is that people want to do what they want to do, and darn the consequences to anyone else, or even themselves. THAT is the true problem in America today, hidden under a ton of labels and clichés that give no thought to the future.

Now, THAT is off topic, and a discussion that is not for this forum. And I'm as tired of this somewhat pointless debate as the next person.

[Capita]

Ok, let me put it this way, if I were to say, "the more "revealing" an outfit, the more likely sex will be the foremost on a man's mind." Is there any HONEST man, who is fully "functional" and attracted to women, that would say that is not true?

And even if there are a few (and I commend you greatly), is it not true that this is the norm, as has been discussed among men?

It doesn't matter what era it is, natural responses do not change.

There is nothing you can point out of what I said, that isn't true, (other than views on what a complaint is). Having values is about being responsible, not stamping out individuality. The real issue, is that people want to do what they want to do, and darn the consequences to anyone else, or even themselves. THAT is the true problem in America today, hidden under a ton of labels and clichés that give no thought to the future.

Now, THAT is off topic, and a discussion that is not for this forum. And I'm as tired of this somewhat pointless debate as the next person.

I'll say it again. The less you worry about what people think of you, the happier you'll be. Responsibility? We live in a free society to be able to express ourselves, and exercising that right is in no way irresponsible. It's people like you who are why our censorship system is so screwed up. Show death, violence, gore, and drugs. But definitely censor anything that even remotely resembles sex. Really?

I have tattoos. Does that mean I'm any less intelligent than the person next to me? Hell no. Will some people think I'm less intelligent? Yes, they will. Do I care? Hell no. I've stretched my ears out and I can fit a pencil through the holes. Does that make me some kind of hooligan? Nope. I'm in nuclear medicine, and I care for my patients just like anyone else. I just like how they look. Does everyone like how they look? No, some people think it's disgusting, but that doesn't matter to me. The way I see it, if a person's gonna judge me based on the style I prefer, then they're obviously not worth my time. I'm not about to lose sleep over it.

Humans will be humans. We all succumb to some form of desire, whether it be in the form of a skimpy bikini or animal suits (lolfurries). Should it stop you from living your life how you want to live it? That's your choice. I, for one, have bigger things to worry about than what people think of me.

For the record, yes I am attracted to women wearing bikinis. I'm attracted to women wearing skirts, black-rimmed glasses, hippie headbands, hoodies, Chucks, etc. But I sure as hell treat them all with equal respect no matter what they wear. I'm sure I'm not the only one either.

[Misha]

I'll say it again. The less you worry about what people think of you, the happier you'll be. Responsibility? We live in a free society to be able to express ourselves, and exercising that right is in no way irresponsible. It's people like you who are why our censorship system so screwed up. Show death, violence, gore, and drugs. But definitely censor sex. Really?

I have tattoos. Does that mean I'm any less intelligent than the person next to me? Hell no. Will some people think I'm less intelligent? Yes, they will. Do I care? Hell no. I've stretched my ears out and I can fit a pencil through the holes. Does that make me some kind of hooligan? Nope. I'm in nuclear medicine, and I care for my patients just like anyone else. I just like how they look. Does everyone like how they look? No, some people think it's disgusting, but that doesn't matter to me. The way I see it, if a person's gonna judge me based on the style I prefer, then they're obviously not worth my time. I'm not about to lose sleep over it. That's life... deal with it ... just don't push your censorship on others^^

Humans will be humans. We all succumb to some form of desire, whether it be in the form of a skimpy bikini or animal suits (lolfurries). Should it stop you from living your life how you want to live it? That's your choice. I, for one, have bigger things to worry about than what people think of me.

Was about to respond when I read your response... it's what I wanted to say, just longer Hehe well put... again lol

"The way I see it, if a person's gonna judge me based on the style I prefer, then they're obviously not worth my time." This and the fact that just cause you attract doesn't mean you have to ... in simple terms "get with someone". Between block list on the game and self defense in real life (Including self control from either side) It isn't a problem unless you make it one in your mind. There's nothing really to argue against here. You don't like it? That's life! Just don't push your censorship on other people, do what you gotta do but leave people to live their own lives.

Edit: Sex has deep psychological roots to alot of things we do in the conscious and subconscious mind, and it's not just men, but women too. Human's are social and sexual beings, people who try to censor that are beyond irrational.

[Chezen]

I'll say it again. The less you worry about what people think of you, the happier you'll be. Responsibility? We live in a free society to be able to express ourselves, and exercising that right is in no way irresponsible. It's people like you who are why our censorship system is so screwed up. Show death, violence, gore, and drugs. But definitely censor anything that even remotely resembles sex. Really?

I have tattoos. Does that mean I'm any less intelligent than the person next to me? Hell no. Will some people think I'm less intelligent? Yes, they will. Do I care? Hell no. I've stretched my ears out and I can fit a pencil through the holes. Does that make me some kind of hooligan? Nope. I'm in nuclear medicine, and I care for my patients just like anyone else. I just like how they look. Does everyone like how they look? No, some people think it's disgusting, but that doesn't matter to me. The way I see it, if a person's gonna judge me based on the style I prefer, then they're obviously not worth my time. I'm not about to lose sleep over it.

Humans will be humans. We all succumb to some form of desire, whether it be in the form of a skimpy bikini or animal suits (lolfurries). Should it stop you from living your life how you want to live it? That's your choice. I, for one, have bigger things to worry about than what people think of me.

For the record, yes I am attracted to women wearing bikinis. I'm attracted to women wearing skirts, black-rimmed glasses, hippie headbands, hoodies, Chucks, etc. But I sure as hell treat them all with equal respect no matter what they wear. I'm sure I'm not the only one either.

And what exactly do you think causes death, violence, gore, and drugs, particularly the documented rise over them the past few decades. A breakdown in values has contributed both to the breakdown of restraint, and marriages. A breakdown of restraint, people doing what they want, will lead as much to violence and drugs as anything else, because they don't care, just like anyone else who doesn't care. The breakdown in marriages leads to broken families, which leads to broken children, which leads to people who are emotionally unstable, whether it's that child, or the child they end up having that they cannot raise as stable as they should because the parent is broken already.

And yes, this is related to what you would wear in this particular sense. It's not really a cause as much as a symptom.

And I don't care about your tatoos. I've seen some pretty cute ones. That has nothing to do with a breakdown of values.

But to be clear... I'm not asking SE to do anything about this bathing suit. I wish they didn't put it up in the first place yes, but simply "censoring" it would do no good either, on that I could agree with you. It serves no purpose to simply tell people what they can or can't do. People's hearts have to change, and they have to decide whats really important.

As for judging... judging implies that I look down on people for their choices. That isn't the same as pointing out the truth. On a day I'm feeling particularly snarky (yes I am human, with the same feelings as you) I might shake my head at the stupidity, but that still has more to do with frustration with people than with judgement.

What I do believe, is that this world can be fully free of pain, hurt, and loneliness for everyone, not just the select few tough enough to not let things get to them. I believe it can be full of light and love. But for that to happen, every person on earth would have to contribute. Doing what you want when you want won't get us there. Stiffling every bit of individuality won't either. The road runs down the middle.

[Raikki]

And what exactly do you think causes death, violence, gore, and drugs, particularly the documented rise over them the past few decades. A breakdown in values has contributed both to the breakdown of restraint, and marriages. A breakdown of restraint, people doing what they want, will lead as much to violence and drugs as anything else, because they don't care, just like anyone else who doesn't care. The breakdown in marriages leads to broken families, which leads to broken children, which leads to people who are emotionally unstable, whether it's that child, or the child they end up having that they cannot raise as stable as they should because the parent is broken already.

It is in incredibly poor taste to use this thread as a forum for preaching your moral ideology. You also seem to be misinformed, as violent crime rates have been in rapid decline since the early 1990s. In addition, while gender inequalities remain, women today are treated with much more respect than before this supposed "breakdown in morals" occurred.

[Atoli]

To make another attempt on getting back to topic:
I'm also in favour of a hide weapon option
Not just during the event(s), but all the time..it would be especially great for roleplayers^-^

[Capita]

And what exactly do you think causes death, violence, gore, and drugs, particularly the documented rise over them the past few decades. A breakdown in values has contributed both to the breakdown of restraint, and marriages. A breakdown of restraint, people doing what they want, will lead as much to violence and drugs as anything else, because they don't care, just like anyone else who doesn't care. The breakdown in marriages leads to broken families, which leads to broken children, which leads to people who are emotionally unstable, whether it's that child, or the child they end up having that they cannot raise as stable as they should because the parent is broken already.

And yes, this is related to what you would wear in this particular sense. It's not really a cause as much as a symptom.

And I don't care about your tatoos. I've seen some pretty cute ones. That has nothing to do with a breakdown of values.

I find it absolutely ridiculous that you even mention values. Values are different from person to person, and from culture to culture. I guarantee that you would be considered quite rude in another culture, despite how much you consider yourself to somehow be a person who holds values in high regard. If anything, attempting to push your own values and morals on others is much more irresponsible than those who are just living by the values they believe in without trying to force it upon others. Ironic, isn't it?

Violence and drugs have little to do with a breakdown in values in today's society. Violence has been around since the dawn of man. Drugs have been used for centuries, both recklessly and for spiritual awakening in some cultures. All of your negative views toward sex, violence, and drugs with a total disregard for how other cultures might view them just shows that you've lived in a shell your entire life. You're using the slippery slope argument to attempt to justify your position, but with such a narrow-minded view of the world, it's not getting your argument very far.

It serves no purpose to simply tell people what they can or can't do. People's hearts have to change, and they have to decide whats really important.

I would implore you to take your own advice. Open your eyes a bit, because you're missing out on what's so amazing about this world. Everyone's different, and that's what makes it so interesting.

As for judging... judging implies that I look down on people for their choices. That isn't the same as pointing out the truth. On a day I'm feeling particularly snarky (yes I am human, with the same feelings as you) I might shake my head at the stupidity, but that still has more to do with frustration with people than with judgement.

What is the truth? Because from what I can see, you have some skewed vision of what the truth is. The truth of the world is that people will be different from you, and that things are not as simple as black and white. Values are taught, not biologically programmed.

What I do believe, is that this world can be fully free of pain, hurt, and loneliness for everyone, not just the select few tough enough to not let things get to them. I believe it can be full of light and love. But for that to happen, every person on earth would have to contribute. Doing what you want when you want won't get us there. Stiffling every bit of individuality won't either. The road runs down the middle.

The reality of it is that, such a eutopia does not exist and will not exist on Earth. In the afterlife, sure. I believe in Heaven and God. But this world, no.

[Belial]

Capita: You are speaking to a brick wall. They are hiding under the guise of values and morality as a means to justify their argument, which is a lost cause as soon it becomes a part of said argument. I totally agree with you in most aspects (I, however am an atheist and fail to see a reasoning for any faith or deity.) But you're not going to gain any ground with someone who is clouded by ignorance. And based on their arguments, I find it highly unlikely that Chezen has had any major cultural exchanges outside of White Suburbia, USA.

[Capita]

Capita: You are speaking to a brick wall. They are hiding under the guise of values and morality as a means to justify their argument, which is a lost cause as soon it becomes a part of said argument. I totally agree with you in most aspects (I, however am an atheist and fail to see a reasoning for any faith or deity.) But you're not going to gain any ground with someone who is clouded by ignorance. And based on their arguments, I find it highly unlikely that Chezen has had any major cultural exchanges outside of White Suburbia, USA.

Hear, hear.

Just waiting for the patch so I can oggle my Miqo'te in her sexy bikini with my sinful eyes.

[Belial]

Hear, hear.

Just waiting for the patch so I can oggle my Miqo'te in her sexy bikini with my sinful eyes.

Just be careful... First it's Final Fantasy swimwear oggling... then come the sex and drugs...


.... Wait... that doesn't sound so bad.