[Pole] Do you want to see the summoner class reworked?

[MercuryD]

Lore IS the end-all-be-all in game, if the lore doesn't agree with it then it will not be. That being said, lore can evolve. I am sure we will never see a full primal as a summon but a size increase could be a possibility sometime in the far future. Tristan summoned Belias-egi by using not only crystals, but job stones (which I would assume would have more influence being that just 1 allows us to summon). I don't really see us doing more than what the Allagans did, seeing as they invented the art and we are practicing a small portion of it.

tldr; Lore makes all the rules. Possibilities abound.

[Shougun]

Lore IS the end-all-be-all in game, if the lore doesn't agree with it then it will not be. That being said, lore can evolve. I am sure we will never see a full primal as a summon but a size increase could be a possibility sometime in the far future. Tristan summoned Belias-egi by using not only crystals, but job stones (which I would assume would have more influence being that just 1 allows us to summon). I don't really see us doing more than what the Allagans did, seeing as they invented the art and we are practicing a small portion of it.

tldr; Lore makes all the rules. Possibilities abound.

Yes I meant to say that people saying the current lore means we can't ever have a change, that wouldn't be true because the lore has allowed it. But I can see how I said it made it very unclear XD

Yeah I doubt we will get full primals as personal pets because they're just so big (and would require a lot of aether...)... But if we ever get personal limit breaks it would be neat if we could have the tier 3 (or 4 if that would exist) limit break be the primal's in the fights (last tier of course).

[Dwill]

Yes I meant to say that people saying the current lore means we can't ever have a change, that wouldn't be true because the lore has allowed it. But I can see how how I said it made it very unclear XD

Yeah I doubt we will get full primals as personal pets because they're just so big... But if we ever get personal limit breaks it would be neat if we could have the tier 3 (or 4 if that would exist) limit break be the primal's in the fights (last tier of course).

Lore can indeed change over the time but summoning anything greater than Egis would need a retcon which is really frown upon, though entirely within their rights.

And if my memory serves me right, job specific LB are supposed to be coming at some point in the future and the speculation is that if a Summoners uses it, it would be based of the currently used Egi's Primal form (all of this being speculation).

[Shougun]

Lore can indeed change over the time but summoning anything greater than Egis would need a retcon which is really frown upon, though entirely within their rights.

And if my memory serves me right, job specific LB are supposed to be coming at some point in the future and the speculation is that if a Summoners uses it, it would be based of the currently used Egi's Primal form (all of this being speculation).

I don't think we will ever go above "essence" (egi) status either, but we can definitely change the shapes and sizes of egi's without retcon (so long as they don't overpower the originals, and we can explain the extra aether required).

Also talking about aether poisoning was the aether teleporting poison retconed? I remember in 1.0 we had a limit because of poisoning, but I don't remember how Yoshida removed that bit.. was it Atomos?

[Dwill]

I don't think we will ever go above "essence" (egi) status either, but we can definitely change the shapes and sizes of egi's without retcon (so long as they don't overpower the originals, and we can explain the extra aether required).

That would be feasible to a degree but highly unlikely since Square Enix already stated they weren't going to change the Egis' appearance, back when it was a much bigger deal than it currently is.

Also talking about aether poisoning was the aether teleporting poison retconed? I remember in 1.0 we had a limit because of poisoning, but I don't remember how Yoshida removed that bit.. was it Atomos?

It is indeed because of Atomos.