Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[Renik]

Here's my theory:

-each fruit can have negative and positive values in the RGB scale.
-The condition of the stable affects said values.
-The message new plumage message will show when the value is enough to change from one color to another, and will be showing every time if you keep feeding the same fruit.
-If after receiving the message you feed it another kind of fruit it will only appear again when the value is enough to change the result of the first feed, but keeping it's progression.

Negative (-) means going to 0, positive (+) means going to 255.

Xephatol apple: R(+?), G-, B-
Doman PLum: R(-?), G(-?), B+
Mamook Pear: R-, G(+?), B-
Valfruit: R+, G=, B+
O'Ghomoro Berries: R-, G-, B(+?)
Cieldalaes Pineapple: this one is giving me problems but if i have to describe it i would say R+, G+, B(-?)

[Sadana]

Here's my theory:

-each fruit can have negative and positive values in the RGB scale.
-The condition of the stable affects said values.
-The message new plumage message will show when the value is enough to change from one color to another, and will be showing every time if you keep feeding the same fruit.
-If after receiving the message you feed it another kind of fruit it will only appear again when the value is enough to change the result of the first feed, but keeping it's progression.


Negative (-) means going to 0, positive (+) means going to 255.

Xephatol apple: R(+?), G-, B-
Doman PLum: R(-?), G(-?), B+
Mamook Pear: R-, G(+?), B-
Valfruit: R+, G=, B+
O'Ghomoro Berries: R-, G-, B(+?)
Cieldalaes Pineapple: this one is giving me problems but if i have to describe it i would say R+, G+, B(-?)

Not sure since folks are using the exact same food combination and getting drastically different results. For example, people who have gotten Millioncorn Yellow using just apples have used 2, 4 and 10. It is possible, but unlikely, that we got the same number of 'proc' messages, but which is it? The "plumage will change" message or the "beginning to grow new feathers" message? I would guess that one of those is just an update message of sorts, not sure. With my one feeding, I got 3 plumage messages and 2 feathers messages. What we need is someone who got only the "plumage will change" message without the "feathers" message (if that is even possible) to see if color change happened.

[Renik]

Not sure since folks are using the exact same food combination and getting drastically different results. For example, people who have gotten Millioncorn Yellow using just apples have used 2, 4 and 10. It is possible, but unlikely, that we got the same number of 'proc' messages, but which is it? The "plumage will change" message or the "beginning to grow new feathers" message? I would guess that one of those is just an update message of sorts, not sure. With my one feeding, I got 3 plumage messages and 2 feathers messages. What we need is someone who got only the "plumage will change" message without the "feathers" message (if that is even possible) to see if color change happened.

Following my theory if you only get the message "plumage will change" it would modify the RGB values but w/o being enough to change to another color, yes it would have effect, the choco would have a different value from the initial one, but it would not change the color because the system would round it to the closer one, the initial value before the feeding.

Edit: forgot something, there are 2 reasons to get different results with the same combinations, stable condition, and RNG, or a mix of both.

[Sadana]

Following my theory if you only get the message "plumage will change" it would modify the RGB values but w/o being enough to change to another color, yes it would have effect, the choco would have a different value from the initial one, but it would not change the color because the system would round it to the closer one, the initial value before the feeding.

I see... hmm. So we need 2 or more people to feed the same number of the same fruit, count messages, and see if they get the same number of messages / same results?

[Renik]

I see... hmm. So we need 2 or more people to feed the same number of the same fruit, count messages, and see if they get the same number of messages / same results?

It would help to have them do it with different stable conditions and starting from the same color ( value), after feeding a han lemon.

Theories are made to be broken so i hope someone can destroy mine, it would be a big step.

[Laveah]

It would help to have them do it with different stable conditions and starting from the same color ( value), after feeding a han lemon.

Theories are made to be broken so i hope someone can destroy mine, it would be a big step.

yea a new thread should probably be started for the experiment

[Sadana]

It would help to have them do it with different stable conditions and starting from the same color ( value), after feeding a han lemon.

Theories are made to be broken so i hope someone can destroy mine, it would be a big step.

It has already been posted that stable condition probably doesn't have an effect. Someone posted that a few from the same FC got different results with the same feedings. Of course, I need to go FIND that post... XDDDD

Oh if i'm right the number of messages doesn't matter if you keep feeding the same fruit, because the system would show it again with every feed, so we can't know when a feed of the same fruit is getting the chocobo to a new tier of color after the first message.

How so? I didn't get a message with every apple I fed my bird. I got:
1. plumage message
2. nothing
3. feathers & plumage
4. feathers & plumage

Unless you mean after the first feathers message? Hmm. I'd just like to figure out the fewest number of fruit needed to turn the bird a certain color. Especially while fruit prices are so high...

[Dirk]

First off, wanted to say this thread has been both a blessing and a curse to my curiosity!! Congrats to everyone who got their colors, and good luck to everyone else who's shooting for different ones!

I just wanted to post that I'm running a few tests at the moment; since everyone seems to have posted everything in batches of 20-30+ fruits/berries in a single 6 hour period. This is not how my experience has been, but, I figure I'll try it the other way and see where it goes.

Originally I was gunning after Soot Black, before this thread really took off.

1st 6hr Period // Stable: Fair
Fed 1xDoman Plum, did not receive any message of "... growing new feathers!"
Waited.
2nd 6hr Period // Stable: Good
Fed 3xValfruit, received message of "... growing new feathers!"
Chocobo ended up being Salmon Pink!
3rd 6hr Period // Stable : Good
Fed 1xPineapple (received message), 1xValfruit (received message), and 9xDoman Plum (received message).
Chocobo ended up being Bone White!

I'm going to toss some of the lightening fruits at him again, see if I can get soot black, as that is my goal. I don't have screenshots, as I wasn't thinking of them at the time. (Far more consumed on trying to get the actual color than I was of recording data. I am however recording data like crazy.)

Few of my FC mates used formulas on this thread to achieve their colors, so I'm assuming that they're just as lucky or the formulas work when starting from a non-dyed bird. (I don't think stable cleanliness has anything to do with this, but I recorded it for the sake of information.)