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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Here's my theory:

    -each fruit can have negative and positive values in the RGB scale.
    -The condition of the stable affects said values.
    -The message new plumage message will show when the value is enough to change from one color to another, and will be showing every time if you keep feeding the same fruit.
    -If after receiving the message you feed it another kind of fruit it will only appear again when the value is enough to change the result of the first feed, but keeping it's progression.


    Negative (-) means going to 0, positive (+) means going to 255.

    Xephatol apple: R(+?), G-, B-
    Doman PLum: R(-?), G(-?), B+
    Mamook Pear: R-, G(+?), B-
    Valfruit: R+, G=, B+
    O'Ghomoro Berries: R-, G-, B(+?)
    Cieldalaes Pineapple: this one is giving me problems but if i have to describe it i would say R+, G+, B(-?)
    Not sure since folks are using the exact same food combination and getting drastically different results. For example, people who have gotten Millioncorn Yellow using just apples have used 2, 4 and 10. It is possible, but unlikely, that we got the same number of 'proc' messages, but which is it? The "plumage will change" message or the "beginning to grow new feathers" message? I would guess that one of those is just an update message of sorts, not sure. With my one feeding, I got 3 plumage messages and 2 feathers messages. What we need is someone who got only the "plumage will change" message without the "feathers" message (if that is even possible) to see if color change happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    Not sure since folks are using the exact same food combination and getting drastically different results. For example, people who have gotten Millioncorn Yellow using just apples have used 2, 4 and 10. It is possible, but unlikely, that we got the same number of 'proc' messages, but which is it? The "plumage will change" message or the "beginning to grow new feathers" message? I would guess that one of those is just an update message of sorts, not sure. With my one feeding, I got 3 plumage messages and 2 feathers messages. What we need is someone who got only the "plumage will change" message without the "feathers" message (if that is even possible) to see if color change happened.
    Following my theory if you only get the message "plumage will change" it would modify the RGB values but w/o being enough to change to another color, yes it would have effect, the choco would have a different value from the initial one, but it would not change the color because the system would round it to the closer one, the initial value before the feeding.

    Edit: forgot something, there are 2 reasons to get different results with the same combinations, stable condition, and RNG, or a mix of both.
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    Last edited by Renik; 08-22-2014 at 10:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Following my theory if you only get the message "plumage will change" it would modify the RGB values but w/o being enough to change to another color, yes it would have effect, the choco would have a different value from the initial one, but it would not change the color because the system would round it to the closer one, the initial value before the feeding.
    I see... hmm. So we need 2 or more people to feed the same number of the same fruit, count messages, and see if they get the same number of messages / same results?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    I see... hmm. So we need 2 or more people to feed the same number of the same fruit, count messages, and see if they get the same number of messages / same results?
    It would help to have them do it with different stable conditions and starting from the same color ( value), after feeding a han lemon.

    Theories are made to be broken so i hope someone can destroy mine, it would be a big step.
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    So guys how do you check remaining time without having to feed more?
    I just fed mine another pineapple to see the timer. (1 hour 42).
    It gave me the new feather message again. Gah, was kinda hoping it wouldn't cuz I wanted to see if just 1 new feather message would change it.

    Ahh I see where now.
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    Last edited by Kaelah; 08-22-2014 at 10:17 PM.

    ~Quit moping, get hoping~

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    Has anybody got a link to this spreadsheet that I have seen mentioned? This thread has about 50 new pages since the last time I checked it and I haven't got time to check them all

    Congrats on your Chocobo's guys, they look great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BristolRuss View Post
    Has anybody got a link to this spreadsheet that I have seen mentioned? This thread has about 50 new pages since the last time I checked it and I haven't got time to check them all

    Congrats on your Chocobo's guys, they look great.
    Here it is. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...view?sle=true#
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/376009-Fabulous-Flying-Unicorn%21

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalahRose View Post
    Everyone needs to stop using this... it doesn't give the same results... a new spreadsheet needs to be created with the correct data.
    (gets frustrated that people keep giving out bad info)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Percyphanie View Post
    Everyone needs to stop using this... it doesn't give the same results... a new spreadsheet needs to be created with the correct data.
    (gets frustrated that people keep giving out bad info)
    Counting food is easy and many thought this was the only important info. Now, the thought that all a person needs to get a certain color is the right number of certain fruits is like a fast moving train that can't be stopped... :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayne422 View Post
    It would be nice if we could get the OP to update the original post with some links to some of the resources available and keep the original post updated as we progress.

    I'm also tempted to start a new thread myself to set up more organized experimentation. Would anyone be interested if I did that?
    Problem is that some of the resources aren't as useful as they once were. It's not just using the right food count...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Percyphanie View Post
    Everyone needs to stop using this... it doesn't give the same results... a new spreadsheet needs to be created with the correct data.
    (gets frustrated that people keep giving out bad info)
    He asked I gave. Even though there have been some differences in results it could still get him to the colour he wants or at least close to it. At this point it's better than nothing for some of us.
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/376009-Fabulous-Flying-Unicorn%21

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