Tiny tweak to hunts that might improve the patience for pulling...

[Kinseykinz]

There IS such thing as being a jerk that doesn't really care about other people in the community

You understand this goes both ways right. Expecting people to wait for you is no less selfish than them pulling early. Both of you want full credit, both of you have different ideas on how to get it. (and since in this case, the content IS 'hunting' it would be logical to assume those who get the most credit were actually out hunting and not simply chilling in gridania crafting until they saw 'S mark <pos>). The only people who should be expected to follow Hunt LS rules are those using Hunt LS intel/groups to find mobs...everyone else can do what they please and be considered just as selfish as everyone else...no more, no less.

Still most 'early' pulls I've seen happen were accidental. Someone had trigger finger. Someone Face-pulled. Someone saw provoke and mistakenly thought people were attacking the mob...etc. None of this is done in with a malicious intent. Stuff happens.

The easiest fix here would be an immunity window, but what we did in our LS was make sure we had tanks and healers in each group then did minimal dps on it while they got most of the threat in. This ensure everyone would get full credit as long as people got their three hits in and didn't pop any dps cooldowns so that everyone had the opportunity to tag the mob.

B Rank changes really hurt our community. People hardly group anymore now, and we have no more need for organization so there's no communication or anything like we had. It's just a mad rush to kill because nobody wants to miss the next A window due to no longer having Bs to supplant what was missed. It's terrible.

Also immunity windows won't do crap to solve the problem....other than potentially make it worse. All the window does is prolong the time until people can attack, but once the window is down, people can still attack just like they can now. So people will just stand their purposefully spamming DD moves to pull as soon as window opens....only now, more people will have shown up to whine about it.


And the B rank changes are great. People are actually, out of kindness calling out a B in /sh if they see it to help others....even if it's not their mob. People who just wanted to do their weekly can now do so, and the mechanics of the B rank (with it respawning somewhere on the map 5 seconds after killed) actually makes it HUNTING. You have to actively look for your mark (unless as I said, you get lucky and someone spots it and calls it out). Not be told 'here it is' and just wait for the zerg. Or keep trying to find it, just to miss doing enough damage for weekly credit. So the funny thing is, (in tying it back to what the poster above you said about selfishness), because the Bs are now 'worthless' to the hoarde, people are actually being kind to random members of the community without any reward in it for themselves. Now THAT is selfless behavior.