New SB limitations - facts

[StouterTaru]

ilvl90 is primed around expert dungeons, so I would say the old expert dungeons or below

[Kenji1134]

So [Area = Item Level - 10]
Guess and easy way tot est would be to take some crafted I48/49, and go kill lvl 38-40 mobs, see how many it takes to get 10% or so... Ill try that later.

[Manuka]

All these numbers you guys are getting for rate of binding, are these with or without the spiritbind potion and/or the FC action?

All the numbers I posted earlier were with NQ vendor gear with no HQ's, SB potions or the FC buff active.

So what is the concluded "ideal" range?
Someone mentioned that items within 10 levels of the area bonded at some absurd rate...

I think you got me reversed, the absurd rates I posted yesterday were items 10 +/- 4 ilevels below the mobs level. In your example bonding an item that's 10 levels higher than the mob will give a rate of about 5% every 10 killed (NQ and no materia or buffs). I guess the best way to think of it is rather than the steady incline the old SB rate was the new one is more like a bell curve that peaks at 10 levels below the mob.

Also dungeons seem to behave differently than the overworld in that there are set caps for ilvl ranges ie. ST can only bind i90 while the old HM's can only bind i70 I believe.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Could someone check SB rates of i55 gathering and crafting gear on 1 star mats and items?

Edit: 1 Star crafts seem to spiritbond at roughly .2%.

[Waeksyn]

I did Castrum with crafting accessories - all HQ and all with a random T1 or TII materia (mostly TII which seem to be cheaper than TI most of the time).
i49 neck - net gain +85%
i45 ear - net gain +84%
i46 wrist - +112%
i47 ring - +104%

This is much faster SB than before. Looks like those that simply want to SB will be able to do it much faster now. Those that combined SB with other goals (tomes, dailies, etc). not so much.

BTW, got 5 materia, including 2 TIV for the run. Normally with these accessories, i get about 10% TIV conversion rate.

[SulwynCaliope]

I did Castrum with crafting accessories - all HQ and all with a random T1 or TII materia (mostly TII which seem to be cheaper than TI most of the time).
i49 neck - net gain +85%
i45 ear - net gain +84%
i46 wrist - +112%
i47 ring - +104%

This is much faster SB than before. Looks like those that simply want to SB will be able to do it much faster now. Those that combined SB with other goals (tomes, dailies, etc). not so much.

BTW, got 5 materia, including 2 TIV for the run. Normally with these accessories, i get about 10% TIV conversion rate.

Basically the same conclusion that I have come to after a full day with this patch. I'm SBing faster than ever now and once people start catching on to this, materia prices will probably start plummeting. I've SBed 2 sets full sets of equips (left and right side) after just 3 runs in castrum. So for about an hour and a half's worth of work I'm getting about 22 materias of which some are TIVs.

[Manuka]

Alright I finally completed the overworld testing, here's the data using 9 lvl37 mobs;

i17 Hard Leather Shep's Belt ~ 1% (no bond)
i18 Brass Ring of Craft ~ 3%
i19 Cotton Coif of Gat ~ 7%
i20 Cotton Workgloves ~ 11%
i21 Cotton Doublet Vest of Craft ~ 15%
i22 Goatskin Espadrilles ~ 18%
i23 Velveteen Bandana ~ 21%
i24 Iniate's Gown ~ 22%
i25 Silver Magnifiers ~ 24%
i26 Velveteen Coatee of Craft ~ 26%
i27Velveteen Wedge Cap of Craft ~ 28%
i28 Velveteen Half Apron ~ 26%
i29 Silver Chocker ~ 24%
i30 Velveteen Gown ~ 16%
i31 Steel Goggles ~ 15%
i32 Velveteen Doublet V of C ~ 14%
i33 Linen Halfgloves ~ 12%
i34 Myhtril Magnifiers ~ 11%
i35 Wolf Earrings ~ 10%
i36 Mythril Gorget ~ 9%
***i37 Mythril Ring ~ 8%
i38 Linen Shortgloves ~ 8%
i39 Linen Bliaud ~ 8%
i40 Woolen Sash ~ 7%
i41 Woolen Dress Gloves ~ 7%
i42 Boarskin Toolbelt ~ 7%
i43 Boarskin Survival ~ 7%
i44 Cobalt Preserves ~ 6%
i45 Felt Coif of Gat~ 4%
i46 Electrum Wrists of Craft ~ 4%
i47 Electrum Ring of Craft ~ 3%
i48 Tourmaline Chocker ~ 3%
i49 Electrum Choker ~ 3%

This section was tested on the level 20 mobs in East Shroud to gauge the upper threshold before SB stops.
~13 Velveteen Doub 14% ~ 3%
~14 Linen Halfgloves 25% ~ 3%
~15 Myhtril Mags 11% ~ 3%
~16 Wolf Earrings 49% ~ 3%
~17 Mythril Gorget 18% ~ 3%
~18 Mythril Ring 42% ~ 3%
~19 Linen Bliaud ~ 1% (no bond)

So from all this data the best lvl gear range's to SB are 15-8 levels below the mob your killing as there are sharp losses at the 16 and 7 level mark. Spiritbonding completely stops at 20 levels below the mob and 19 levels above the mob. Gear that is 10 levels or higher than the mob seems to have a capped SB rate that continues until the cutoff. I don't know how much of this relates to dungeon bonding but for Ultimatecalibur I do intend to see what the bond rate for i55 gear is in the overworld later, my inventory is full of crap I need to bond atm lol.

[SulwynCaliope]

Great info Manuka. Thanks so much for testing and sharing. This will be particularly interesting for my friends who prefer to SB i37 gear for tier II materia. May I have permission to copy and paste this information onto my FC website to share with them? Will credit you for it.

[givemeraptors]

Savage might 4 rose 200k (500k to 700k) here in famfrit

It went up 150K on Leviathan (~550K) and it may possibly go up even further.

[Manuka]

Great info Manuka. Thanks so much for testing and sharing. This will be particularly interesting for my friends who prefer to SB i37 gear for tier II materia. May I have permission to copy and paste this information onto my FC website to share with them? Will credit you for it.

Share away! If enough people know the prices on some of this materia might actually go down a bit lol