New SB limitations - facts

[Triston]

For ilvl 55, the armor tends to be much cheaper than the weapons due to speedrunners skipping the chests with parts in WP. Though, if more folks go there to SB they may grab the chests while killing all mobs and drive the price down.

Though, you should keep your weapon as your endgame weapon anyway, since it's the most important piece of equipment and can drastically increase kill speed.

^ Spiritbonding your weapon is never a good idea. I remember I tried it with a few i49 bows pre-patch in Urth's Gift; kill speed was cut by at least a third to half. Nowhere near worth it for a single slot.

[Adrian74]

For ilvl 55, the armor tends to be much cheaper than the weapons due to speedrunners skipping the chests with parts in WP. Though, if more folks go there to SB they may grab the chests while killing all mobs and drive the price down.

Though, you should keep your weapon as your endgame weapon anyway, since it's the most important piece of equipment and can drastically increase kill speed.

Actually, that's the only good thing of SB there, even if it requires three runs... That often some dudes forget a coffer or two there and then after the run I go take it all. If I'm tanking, I try to avoid those coffers like if it would be a sure dead. (Call me greedy!)

[givemeraptors]

Okay. This new spiritbonding is really really dumb.

Why don't i70 items SB in Hullbreaker Isle, Tam-Tara (Hard), or Stone Vigil (Hard)?
The minimum ilvl to enter those instances is 70 BUT i70 ITEMS DON'T SB THERE.

Seriously what the eff? If you're going to create restrictions those restrictions should at least make sense.

[ispano]

Okay. This new spiritbonding is really really dumb.

Why don't i70 items SB in Hullbreaker Isle, Tam-Tara (Hard), or Stone Vigil (Hard)?
The minimum ilvl to enter those instances is 70 BUT i70 ITEMS DON'T SB THERE.

Seriously what the eff? If you're going to create restrictions those restrictions should at least make sense.

That's because it's not based on the ilvl to enter.

[givemeraptors]

That's because it's not based on the ilvl to enter.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

My point was that this makes it quite a stupid system. Why are we being penalized for entering a duty at the appropriate level when that was the entire reason spiritbonding was redone in the first place! Literally, yes literally, that makes no sense.

EDIT: I mean, I shouldn't get irritated with you. It's just stupid that I have to waste several hours queuing for and running high level dungeons to finish spiritbonding an old pair of Vanya Crakows I have (which now don't even give me a guaranteed IV materia). I just want to smack someone in the face.

[ispano]

Think about it for a moment. ilvl to enter is the BARE minimum. Meaning if everyone was there in that level of gear, you might have issues if people aren't playing well. It stands to better reason that the hidden level of the mobs is higher than that. Possibly closer to the gear it drops, or even something else entirely.

[givemeraptors]

Think about it for a moment. ilvl to enter is the BARE minimum. Meaning if everyone was there in that level of gear, you might have issues if people aren't playing well. It stands to better reason that the hidden level of the mobs is higher than that. Possibly closer to the gear it drops, or even something else entirely.

Except that SE is the one that created the minimum ilvl in the first place! Not to mention that people have been complaining about the minimum ilvl since Haukke HM and pre-nerf Titan HM but that wasn't the reason the change was made. Player skill has nothing to do with it.

Direct quote from the patch notes:

"In order to address the issue of players undertaking a duty and then equipping gear lower than the required item level for the purpose of spirit bonding, the following adjustments have been made:"

So exactly what is inappropriate about gear that meets the required ilvl for the instance? If SE decided to base it on mob level when the level of those mobs was high enough to prevent spiritbonding at the minimum ilvl to enter the instance that- again- makes no sense. Now we have this penalty for NOT overgearing dungeons, that's totally ridiculous.