PLEASE REMOVE PVP RANK REQ FROM GEAR

[Dhex]

You say we shouldn't accept bad design. So we clamor for changes and they say they'll make changes. And then you fault them for fixing things in retrospect (in response to us asking for changes). It just seems like they can't win either way with you.

"Win" would have been to put in accessible large group 8v8v8 PVP without any restrictions (ie; not tied to Ranking/Leveling) on abilities and had it completely without Morale or PVP oriented gear and without a GC restriction so people could learn and enjoy it with friends - then later implemented team based 4v4 PVP where you need to register with a GC or make a Team and register for a PVP season. Ranks based on class, overall performance, k/d ratio, assists, captures, healing/damage dealt, and team wins to determine both player individual rank and team rank. Gear and morale would have a purpose in 4v4 and you'd need to be registered for a season to get extra points to make your PVP build. Rank resets each season, gear gets added every few patches same iLv but different stats and effects for depth, and a trophy for the top 3 teams on each server.


But that's not what we got, and it's a mess they're still trying to get figured out because they implemented it backwards and didn't have a core vision or goal for it.

[DefendPopPunk]

"Win" would have been to implement the pvp system that I envisioned.

Fixed it up a bit.

To be honest, looking at your system, I'm confused as to why you would even bother having it 8v8v8 if there is no GC restriction. The whole point of frontlines is that the three GC's are fighting over disputed territory. Without that part, there wouldn't even be a need to deviate from the standard team v team formula, and they already did that with Wolves' Den. That being said, why not 4v4v4v4? Or 2v2v2v2v2? Or anything else different and interesting? And while I understand the desire for clan based pvp a la every fps out there, that isn't what frontlines seems to be about. Who's to say you won't get a system like that in the future? The devs already seem keen to implement such a system anyway, if recent interviews and feedback are to be believed. And when that content comes you can criticize every aspect of it as well, I suppose.

[Dhex]

You can criticize every aspect of it as well, I suppose.

It's just an example - I'm not a a dev. I'm here to play. Making the playground isn't my job but I can recognize when the swing set is broken and the monkey bars are bent. As they say hindsight is 20/20 = you can fix it when you see it's broken.

Maybe I just expect too much - but when I look at the entirety of FFXIV's PVP all I can think is it was intended to be X, came out as Y, and what it really needed to be is Z.

My point:

I want to see a little more forethought and polish. Not more "We made it, it's broken and backwards and kind of derpy, but we made! Oh and uh sorry we're working on fixing it!"

[DefendPopPunk]

I want to see a little more forethought and polish. Not more "We made it, it's broken and backwards and kind of derpy, but we made! Oh and uh sorry we're working on fixing it!"

That's a fair point. I suppose I'm just a little bit more patient with things like this, and while I would also like things to be done right the first time, I still appreciate that efforts are made to fix mistakes and get things into a more enjoyable state.

[Zileth]

Like I said you didn't earn anything it's the best PVP gear in the game but it's based on how much time you put into it, grinding. Not into some kind of ranking system based on skill that people who actually do good in PVP can get to prove they are good at it, something they earned. If you can't see the point I'm trying to make I'm sorry.

You can't see his point either.... Both are wrong and right....

If your good at PvP you will earn it faster if you suck it will take u a long time.

So you still earned it and even if its just a long grinds you still earned it BC not everyone willing to do it

[DeadRiser]

Nobody wants the stats, just the looks.

I feel you :<

[Wolf_Gang]

I would disagree if PVP gear wasn't so dang useless.

[CrystalObsidian]

Please don't remove rank requirements for pvp gear! I just got rank 38 the other day and was so proud of myself. Was finally able to equip my wolfseye gear and several other gear I had to buy (because my marks kept capping).

I can't believe people still want the rank requirement to be removed even though we NOW have a faster and more efficient way to rank up and earn PVP marks! (Frontlines)
I got to this rank in just a couple weeks, while cramming many other things in between (coil, dailies, etc.). Stop being impatient and just do the relatively SHORT grind like the rest of us.

PS. This is also coming from someone who's had way more losing teams than winning ones. If your gc/teams win often then it'll be an even faster process for you.

[DishSoap]

I can't believe people still want the rank requirement to be removed even though we NOW have a faster and more efficient way to rank up and earn PVP marks! (Frontlines)
I got to this rank in just a couple weeks, while cramming many other things in between (coil, dailies, etc.). Stop being impatient and just do the relatively SHORT grind like the rest of us.

PS. This is also coming from someone who's had way more losing teams than winning ones. If your gc/teams win often then it'll be an even faster process for you.

Then people like this come along and prove my point.

[Titor]

mmmmmmmmm
no.

Unless I can be given HA gear for just earning enough tomes