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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by DishSoap View Post
    Because win trading is super hard work guys.
    I hate to break it you, but even just doing mostly frontlines NOT win-trading, I've got a full-set of Swansgrace and Wolfseye armor (not accessories or belts) and I'm only rank 35. I've bought several other items along the way with my marks too like the battlemage robe.

    AND I'm with Twin Adder, which is notorious for not getting first. It's not hard to earn at all even if you're 2nd or having 3rd-place streaks.
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  2. #32
    It still take 100+ hours with win trading by doin 0 efforts done VS 5 - 6 hours of hunting for a full ilvl90 set.

    Sound about right. I'm not defending win trading by any mean btw, losers are losers.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    It's not hard to earn at all even if you're 2nd or having 3rd-place streaks.
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    It's not hard to earn
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    earn
    Except there isn't anything to earn it's nothing special and it's considered junk that's only worth using for glamour. What here is there to earn?
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  4. #34
    Just go back into your cave
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    Just go back into your cave
    "I can't defend my point better call him a troll!" Yeah you're not fooling anyone buddy.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by DishSoap View Post
    Except there isn't anything to earn it's nothing special and it's considered junk that's only worth using for glamour. What here is there to earn?
    They're fun for dominating in wolves den, they will be fun when they make morale gear useful in frontlines (which they've said they will), AND they look unique. I've had fun earning them. If you don't like PVP, don't do it. But I'm having a blast. Sorry I'm not sorry.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    They're fun for dominating in wolves den, they will be fun when they make morale gear useful in frontlines (which they've said they will), AND they look unique. I've had fun earning them. If you don't like PVP, don't do it. But I'm having a blast. Sorry I'm not sorry.
    Like I said you didn't earn anything it's the best PVP gear in the game but it's based on how much time you put into it, grinding. Not into some kind of ranking system based on skill that people who actually do good in PVP can get to prove they are good at it, something they earned. If you can't see the point I'm trying to make I'm sorry.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephenjd3 View Post
    no one would do pvp if they removed the requirement this is a silly thread.
    All the opposite. If requierements were reduced, not removed, but reduced and made reasonable, like having just 1 PvP rank, you would turn booring grind into progression, and people will not be scared off from PvP cause they will see their grind made nothing after doing as natural as changing GC, more people would participate from both, wolf`s den and frontlines.

    Quote Originally Posted by DishSoap View Post
    Like I said you didn't earn anything it's the best PVP gear in the game but it's based on how much time you put into it, grinding. Not into some kind of ranking system based on skill that people who actually do good in PVP can get to prove they are good at it, something they earned. If you can't see the point I'm trying to make I'm sorry.
    Dont try anymore, he thinks spending time in front of a monitor is some kind of special skill only he has, braging right for spending +100 hours doing nothing but breathing LOL.
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    earn:
    to gain or get in return for one's labor or service

    To earn isn't just to get 'first'. It's to put in time and effort for. The people who put in time to get their crafters leveled up have earned the ability to be self-sufficient in creating items for themselves.

    For the people hungry for first place, there are the PVP lodestone rankings. But the highest level armors are not so restrictive. Grinding = putting in time and effort = earning. Sorry again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Dont try anymore, he thinks spending time in front of a monitor is some kind of special skill only he has, braging right for spending +100 hours doing nothing but breathing LOL.
    The hell? I said ANYONE can earn these armors by putting in time and effort. Don't pat yourselves on the back too hard.
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    Last edited by Parodine; 08-17-2014 at 04:40 AM.

  10. #40
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    Grinding = Booring repetitive activity of cheap mechanics made to elongate gameplay time.

    Whats the effort in that? endure it? lol.
    Anything that comes with just time is equally efortless as something that is handed down to you.
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