Abusing the Trade feature to interrupt, etc

[Argyle_Darkheart]

Any word on if this is a bannable offense and if it's going to be fixed anytime soon? It's getting pretty old.

Lighten up and/or blacklist them.

Sure, it's annoying, but it's really a bit much to want them banned for it.

[Verranicus]

Lighten up and/or blacklist them.

Sure, it's annoying, but it's really a bit much to want them banned for it.

Come back after people use the exploit to get you killed or fuck you up while doing something important.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

Come back after people use the exploit to get you killed or fuck you up while doing something important.

I don't care for your sob stories, and I think you're inflating the issue.

Permanent suspension is a serious punishment, and should be reserved for only the most dire of issues.

[Verranicus]

I don't care for your sob stories, and I think you're inflating the issue.

Permanent suspension is a serious punishment, and it should not be dealt out lightly.

Trade troll spotted.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

Trade troll spotted.

Sorry, but I'm not so immature as to think every slight deserves such an indignant response.

People need to chill out, take a deep breath, and think whether their offenders really deserve their outrage.

Yes, they're having a laugh at your expense. Do the GMs need to come in and sort your feelings out for you? I don't think so (for everyone's sake).

If the issue persists, of course, that's a different, more personal, level of harassment.

[Tupsi]

Sorry, but I'm not so immature as to think every slight deserves such an indignant response.

However punishing nothing at all sends the message it's ok to do. If they deal out Salvage like bans, people will straighten up quite nicely, even if it's for a short while.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

You'd feel diffirently if you're trying to get somewhere. A once-a-day mining node that's about to despawn that you would have made otherwise, or an A/S-rank hunt you could have reached if it wasnt for some jerkface who keeps following you around and trading you for his laughs.

No, I wouldn't. I would /busy or /blacklist the offender. I only report people if they're a persistent menace to other people, or if I have literally no other alternative.

I've had someone literally follow me around for 5 minutes locking me into place.

That sucks. That's persistent harassment, and warrants a reaction. Still, I would just /blacklist them and move on.

Why do you feel it's not acceptable to ban someone who is seriously griefing you and is trying to stop you from enjoying the game or getting things done? I certainly dont want those kinds of people or that sort of behavior around on this game. And if asking them doesnt stop it, maybe a ban will make them change their attitudes.

(Extended personal harassment is a different issue than what I was addressing, but I still think GM intervention should be a last resort.)

It sets a dangerous precedent, and I don't trust GMs to issue suspensions judiciously.
I don't think players should immediately turn to GM intervention, just as I don't think people, in real life, should immediately turn to the authorities.
I don't want some players' accounts terminated because some people can't contain their emotions.
Maybe someone deserves to be banned, maybe they don't. But that should not be decided so quickly.

However punishing nothing at all sends the message it's ok to do. If they deal out Salvage like bans, people will straighten up quite nicely, even if it's for a short while.

I don't want anyone to be banned undeservedly just to send a message to a few bad apples. That's disgusting.

[Gramul]

I don't care for your sob stories, and I think you're inflating the issue.

Permanent suspension is a serious punishment, and should be reserved for only the most dire of issues.

Then how about a week long ban?
No ida what makes people act like dicks to each other, but there should be some punishment for it.

[Cigaran]

I don't care for your sob stories, and I think you're inflating the issue.

Permanent suspension is a serious punishment, and should be reserved for only the most dire of issues.

Actually, if the permanent suspension was used more most MMO communities would be purged of their idiots pretty quickly.

[Tupsi]

I don't care for your sob stories, and I think you're inflating the issue.

Permanent suspension is a serious punishment, and should be reserved for only the most dire of issues.

Ah, but you see in the 2009 Salvage Bans in FFXI it was simply duping gear that did nothing but save people time from farming the same remnant over and over...duping is an exploit but it wasn't 'dire enough' for SE to go:

"Nope, you dun goof'd after we warned you we're watching."

And laid the smack down, even on people considered 'key FFXI players' - Of course it made the news because a company dare not actually...ban players for breaking the rules, especially en mass. In all honesty, they need to man up like that again, it's almost guaranteed people would straighten up even if it lasts only a few months.

Also, stop saying it's immaturity - You steal a candy bar, you're stealing, it's not ok because "it's only a candy bar", breaking the rules is breaking the rules - some minor some major, but if you do nothing at all you're honestly sending the message:

"It's perfectly ok to break the rules, go ahead!"