Abusing the Trade feature to interrupt, etc

[RyuDragnier]

Eh, maybe not banned but GM jail (does xiv have a GM jail?) would be nice.

They do. Somebody I know got sent to it, and got to see a GM...they were in FFXII-ish Judge armor from what he said. It was like an inquisition when they started questioning him. Nobody expects the Eorzean Inquisition!

[whoopeeragon]

Sure, it's annoying, but it's really a bit much to want them banned for it.

Considering people have been banned for less, such as /tell harassment, emote spamming etc, I wouldn't be surprised about temporary bans for Trade harassment.

Especially since it's NOT just an annoyance.

Trade interruption can also interrupt casting. I've seen it happen, and reported the person who did it. One poor soul was doing a levequest, and probably mistimed a dodge or somewhat (things happen) and was on low HP. She sprinted a distance away, and was casting Cure. Some fool saw, and went and traded her, interrupting her cast. Suffice to say, she ended up dying when the mob caught up to her. The person who traded just /laughed and went away.

That was just for a levequest, which is repeatable. Imagine if people did this to a person doing their Alexandrite maps. Or trying to get their mobs for logs/animus books/quests. Imagine if that get happening to you while fighting a hunt mob. Of course, if you go a melee/archer discipline, this is a non-issue, but as a caster, it's more than just an annoyance, its detrimental.

Of course, you could always argue that people can just set /busy. But they SHOULDN'T. They shouldn't expect to be harassed like this, just as you don't expect to get hot water flung in your face every time you sit down in a restaurant. I may be taking an aggressive stance on this, but being a WHM/SCH main, I wouldn't want this to happen to me at all.

[Marael]

Lighten up and/or blacklist them.

Sure, it's annoying, but it's really a bit much to want them banned for it.

Aha hahaha... ha...

Yeah... I can't tell you how many times I've been minding my own business, gathering materials I needed for leveling up crafts or for making my next set of gear on whatever job I was leveling at the time, and some self-important jerk walks up and, without a word, starts spamming me with trades to prevent me from gathering. I don't know where the "every single gatherer you see is a bot and must be stopped" mentality came from, but it sure got old fast for us legitimate people. I mean, seriously, is it so much to ask that you either mind your own business, or, you know, TRY TALKING TO THE PERSON BEFORE SPAMMING THEM WITH TRADES!?!?!? I report anyone I don't know who trades me even once these days because of it on general principle. I can't tell you how sick of it I am, and I do, indeed, hope that each and every one of them is banned. Maybe I'm being a dick about it, sure, but after a year of people spamming me with trades for no real reason that I can see except to stroke their own ego, and make themselves feel important, that's the place I'm at now. Those who came before made those who do it now completely intolerable to me. You try talking to people, you try being nice, and it still just keeps happening. How long is your patience? Because I am completely beyond the end of mine. Once or twice, okay, ignore it. HUNDREDS OF TIMES from HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUALS, no, this is a serious problem that is not going to stop by ignoring it or doing what I can to take care of it myself. If it is going to stop, a higher authority must be involved. I completely filled up my blacklist, not with people who spam me for RMT purposes, but with people who spammed me with trades because they saw me gathering and every gatherer MUST be a bot. I shouldn't have to /busy every time I need a few materials. I shouldn't see this level of harassment from SO MANY different individuals because I want to craft every once in a while. And no, I am not exaggerating in the least. Literally hundreds of people have done this to me over the past year since this game launched. I don't care if it's their first time ever doing it, or if they legitimately want to hand something to me, if they're not on my friend list, they are reported, period. I've gotten to the point where I just don't even care what their reasons are. I don't want to talk to them. I don't want to be near them. I don't want them on the game at all. I'm that sick of it. This isn't just a, oh I thought that one guy was annoying, sort of thing. This is a, OMFG why do hundreds of people keep freaking doing this to me, sort of thing. There comes a point for everyone where you've had all you can take, and you can't take anymore. I hit that point about eight months ago... and it STILL keeps happening. You go ahead and keep trivializing other people's problems, and we'll keep reporting the people we see as deserving of it. Sorry if I come off as something of an A-hole here, but seriously, this is the thing I hate the absolute most in this game, and you come along arguing fiercely that eh, it's not all that bad, get over it and stop being such an oversensitive whiner. I've been traded during alexandrite maps. I've been traded during Guildleves. I've been traded during hunts. But mostly, I get traded while gathering. This isn't a problem that is just going to get better if I keep doing my own thing about it. This is a problem that is persistent, and keeps happening no matter what I do about it.

[Tinsley]

Our FC does this to each other as a joke but we keep it in the family so to speak. i'd never do it to anyone i dont know, as i know how annoying it can be.

I assume it'll be fixed eventually but until then, /busy will stop any trolls.

[NintenPyjak64]

The trade glitch has been around since launch, people used it on obvious bots and it'd screw up the bots (until they started using /busy) but when word got out, people used it on anybody who they assumed is a bot. Seems it's starting to resurface

[CUTS3R]

The trade glitch has been around since launch, people used it on obvious bots and it'd screw up the bots (until they started using /busy) but when word got out, people used it on anybody who they assumed is a bot. Seems it's starting to resurface

Thanks i didn't know bout this harassment method as it never happened to me. Also thanks for the advice. From now on ill switch to busy every time i'll mine / hunt / do maps or just anything a /trade would end up screwing me, just in case it happens.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

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I'm not saying the trade mechanics aren't an issue, and I'm not saying that people should just accept bad mechanics.

What I'm saying is that trying to get someone banned because they trade-griefed you once is an overreaction. Apparently, some of you feel otherwise. Fine, but I think that's sad.

[Surian]

I'm not saying the trade mechanics aren't an issue, and I'm not saying that people should just accept bad mechanics.

What I'm saying is that trying to get someone banned because they trade-griefed you once is an overreaction. Apparently, some of you feel otherwise. Fine, but I think it's sad.

You'd feel diffirently if you're trying to get somewhere. A once-a-day mining node that's about to despawn that you would have made otherwise, or an A/S-rank hunt you could have reached if it wasnt for some jerkface who keeps following you around and trading you for his laughs.

I've had someone literally follow me around for 5 minutes locking me into place.

Why do you feel it's not acceptable to ban someone who is seriously griefing you and is trying to stop you from enjoying the game or getting things done? I certainly dont want those kinds of people or that sort of behavior around on this game. And if asking them doesnt stop it, maybe a ban will make them change their attitudes.

[Alukah]

You'd feel diffirently if you're trying to get somewhere. A once-a-day mining node that's about to despawn that you would have made otherwise, or an A/S-rank hunt you could have reached if it wasnt for some jerkface who keeps following you around and trading you for his laughs.

I've had someone literally follow me around for 5 minutes locking me into place.

Why do you feel it's not acceptable to ban someone who is seriously griefing you and is trying to stop you from enjoying the game or getting things done? I certainly dont want those kinds of people or that sort of behavior around on this game. And if asking them doesnt stop it, maybe a ban will make them change their attitudes.

Misunderstanding

If the issue persists, of course, that's a different, more personal, level of harassment.

To make it short, if someone does it once just lighten up, it's just a joke.

If someone is following you for 5 minutes that's no longer a joke, that's clear harassment.

Asking to ban someone who did it once is taking things a bit too far, but if someone is continuously trading you then you should report them.

Either way this should get fixed.

It depends on the severity of that 'once'.

If it's just a minor troll, like in a FATE and once? Ok, I'll ignore it and carry on.

If it's a once that causes death, or ruins a duty like a map? Yup, you can rest assured that report is going straight off to the GMs.

This is also a valid point ^

[whoopeeragon]

What I'm saying is that trying to get someone banned because they trade-griefed you once is an overreaction. Apparently, some of you feel otherwise. Fine, but I think that's sad.

It depends on the severity of that 'once'.

If it's just a minor troll, like in a FATE and once? Ok, I'll ignore it and carry on.

If it's a once that causes death, or ruins a duty like a map? Yup, you can rest assured that report is going straight off to the GMs.